Steering Stabilizer mandatory?

[Redbaron73]

I am chasing down some suspension issues. I want to have a realistic goal.

Should I expect that if my suspension is proper (including all things Draglink, control arms, etc.) that I should never have death wobble even without a stabilizer?

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[JasonInDLH]

I am chasing down some suspension issues. I want to have a realistic goal.

Should I expect that if my suspension is proper (including all things Draglink, control arms, etc.) that I should never have death wobble even without a stabilizer?

That’s true.

 

[Redbaron73]

That’s true.

Is it an absolute truth in all conditions? Meaning purposely hitting ruts etc should still never wobble?

 

[BigFeet]

DW is always a possible issue with a solid front axle. Equal and opposite reaction sciencey type stuff, and all.

You can only limit the probability of the issue arising, but the possibility will always be there.

 

[Redbaron73]

DW is always a possible issue with a solid front axle. Equal and opposite reaction sciencey type stuff, and all.

You can only limit the probability of the issue arising, but the possibility will always be there.

As I am trying to dial in suspension, I have found a way to create a shudder by hitting potholes in a certain angle and speed.

The fact that it recovers on its own seems to indicate it's not bad, and the stabilizer removed all wobble.

Would that describe a good setup?

 

[BigFeet]

There are many things coming into play, all at the same time, and all within a very short timeframe.

Your axle does not move in a perfect vertical axis under suspension. Your wheel/tire combinations are not equally balanced for each side, and many other variables that will contribute to how the harmonic relationship affects the whole system. Removing a component that assists in corrective capabilities may cause other parts of the system to have to take more pain than designed, as well as, exacerbate an issue once they become more pronounced.

Long story short... have your s*#t dialed in, and keep it that way if you decide to deviate from the many engineers that have done decades of R&D on this setup/subject.

You will get away with it until you don't.

 

[Redbaron73]

Don't get me wrong...I am not advocating for permanent removal of the stabilizer...in fact the opposite.

I am about to install the exact center 140lb, which masks all the small stuff wrong. I am trying to make sure I have it all dialed in properly, and probably overthinking it.

 

[gato]

Everything you do to your front suspension/steering can only increase or lessen how much bump steer you get and if that will progress to an oscillation of DW in certain conditions.

That is all. It is not possible to guarantee no death wobble.

The stabilizer is there to further reduce bump steer and further smooth out some of the incipient oscillations.

I think it is valid to drive without a stabilizer to test things out after any modifications. But once the testing is done, you should have the stabilizer on the Jeep. All the other components in your front suspension/steering will thank you for it.

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