Remove dead pedal for Dealer visit?

[Kyanche]

IDK (I doubt?) if the Wrangler 4xe has it, but:

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/06/m...-feature-stellantis-drive-by-brake-explained/

And yea I'm not defending this... it's an insane feature lol.

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[StartedWith97TJ]

You have got to do what you think is best/safest, don’t simply defer to the internet. If you hit the brakes and the Jeep lunged forward and jumped a curb, then it is not a transmission or regenerative braking (or any type of braking issue for that matter). It is either your foot hitting the gas pedal or a problem with the Jeep. If it is/was your foot, then I would be inclined to think it would happen more often. If you are not fairly certain it is you and your shoes, then get it checked before you hit another vehicle or a pedestrian.

If you want to do some troubleshooting, then get some large boots and your normal shoes and try a bunch of stops in an empty parking lot. That should help you determine if your feet/shoes are the problem. That might help justify taking it to a dealer/mechanic. I always try to do my own work to keep the dealer away, and to save a few bucks, but a dealer visit is probably cheaper than your insurance deductible (and increased premiums) if you hit something.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Keep Jeep’n

 

[AmericanPatriot100]

I had a 2009 Trailblazer SS that had the accelerator get stuck on the ridge of a “cut to fit” all weather floor mat installed by the dealer that they never bothered to cut to fit!

 

[DaltonGang]

I've had 3 incidents with my 2022 Wrangler Rubicon 3.6 auto where when stepping on the brake it for a quick second or two felt like my foot was also hitting the gas pedal. The last one I was pulling into a parking place and stepped on the brake and the engine rev'd up and it jumped the concrete curb and took down the handicap sign but stopped right away. Would that be something they would try and associate with the dead pedal, which I actually didn't install until after those 3 incidents. Just curious how picky they might get. Thanks.

I've had this happen(not hitting signs or jumping curbs) when hitting my brake pedal. It was all my fault. Size 12 shoes, and I was applying the brakes with the edge of my foot. When doing this, the law ft side of my foot was on the brake pedal, and the right side caught the gas pedal. It has only happened a couple of times, and only for a split second. I'm still young enough to realise what was happening, and corrected it immediately.
I have seen many older men and women who accidentally hit the gas, instead of the brakes, and just keep pressing harder on the gas pedal, thinking it was the brakes. It usually ends with multiple cars being hit, or a side of a building being rammed. They always think there is something wrong with the vehicle. I've never seen where that was the case.
I've also seen where floor mats caused the gas pedal to get stuck. That's a hard one to make stop.

 

[Kerney]

I'd also recommend going to a large open parking lot and try to replicate this during braking events. If you can't replicate it then the dealer certainly will not be able to.

It may be you though as others have mentioned. I'm assuming you have an automatic but I've had instances where the width of my shoe impacted both brake and gas unintentionally at same time but that was in a manual and just resulted in the engine revving up. With my Elise I have to wear skinny/driving shoes but I'm talking about sports cars that are set up for heel and toe driving.

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For us old farts I'm sure everyone remembers the audi 5000 debacle.

 

[WXman]

I wear a 13 shoe. I do have to admit, when I've been driving my F-150 for a while and then I get back into the JL, it feels like climbing into a clown car. These things are horribly tiny inside, and the footwell is really tight. There have been times when my foot has applied pressure to the brake and accel pedals at the same time.

One of my secret hopes is that the next gen J70 Wrangler will be designed for men.

 

[billjr]

You have got to do what you think is best/safest, don’t simply defer to the internet. If you hit the brakes and the Jeep lunged forward and jumped a curb, then it is not a transmission or regenerative braking (or any type of braking issue for that matter). It is either your foot hitting the gas pedal or a problem with the Jeep. If it is/was your foot, then I would be inclined to think it would happen more often. If you are not fairly certain it is you and your shoes, then get it checked before you hit another vehicle or a pedestrian.

If you want to do some troubleshooting, then get some large boots and your normal shoes and try a bunch of stops in an empty parking lot. That should help you determine if your feet/shoes are the problem. That might help justify taking it to a dealer/mechanic. I always try to do my own work to keep the dealer away, and to save a few bucks, but a dealer visit is probably cheaper than your insurance deductible (and increased premiums) if you hit something.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Keep Jeep’n

Thank you Doug for responding, I appreciate your valuable input.

 

[billjr]

I've had this happen(not hitting signs or jumping curbs) when hitting my brake pedal. It was all my fault. Size 12 shoes, and I was applying the brakes with the edge of my foot. When doing this, the law ft side of my foot was on the brake pedal, and the right side caught the gas pedal. It has only happened a couple of times, and only for a split second. I'm still young enough to realise what was happening, and corrected it immediately.
I have seen many older men and women who accidentally hit the gas, instead of the brakes, and just keep pressing harder on the gas pedal, thinking it was the brakes. It usually ends with multiple cars being hit, or a side of a building being rammed. They always think there is something wrong with the vehicle. I've never seen where that was the case.
I've also seen where floor mats caused the gas pedal to get stuck. That's a hard one to make stop.

Thank you for your response I appreciate your time and information.

 

[billjr]

I'd also recommend going to a large open parking lot and try to replicate this during braking events. If you can't replicate it then the dealer certainly will not be able to.

It may be you though as others have mentioned. I'm assuming you have an automatic but I've had instances where the width of my shoe impacted both brake and gas unintentionally at same time but that was in a manual and just resulted in the engine revving up. With my Elise I have to wear skinny/driving shoes but I'm talking about sports cars that are set up for heel and toe driving.

https://heelandtoeapparel.com/collections/shirts/products/spring-shirt

For us old farts I'm sure everyone remembers the audi 5000 debacle.

Thank you for your response I appreciate it

 

[billjr]

I wear a 13 shoe. I do have to admit, when I've been driving my F-150 for a while and then I get back into the JL, it feels like climbing into a clown car. These things are horribly tiny inside, and the footwell is really tight. There have been times when my foot has applied pressure to the brake and accel pedals at the same time.

One of my secret hopes is that the next gen J70 Wrangler will be designed for men.

Thank you for your response, I do at times have the same feeling going from my truck to the Jeep, very tight in there.

 

[WillysMeow]

I've had 3 incidents with my 2022 Wrangler Rubicon 3.6 auto where when stepping on the brake it for a quick second or two felt like my foot was also hitting the gas pedal. The last one I was pulling into a parking place and stepped on the brake and the engine rev'd up and it jumped the concrete curb and took down the handicap sign but stopped right away. Would that be something they would try and associate with the dead pedal, which I actually didn't install until after those 3 incidents. Just curious how picky they might get. Thanks.

Wow, I've had same exact thing in my 2025 a couple times, had to press the brake harder and kinda startled me! First time it happened, I wasn't sure what the heck just happened as I've never experienced this before in any car, truck etc. It's only happened 2 or 3 times since I bought the Jeep new.

No dead pedal here or floormats that can move. V6 AT and thank God no e-torque. I've also noticed that if I'm punching the gas medium to hard and let off the throttle it's as though the ECU keeps accelerating the engine for a second or two after I let off the gas...drive by wire crap and not good.

 

[wrath]

I wear a size 14 wide or a 15. I regularly have this problem with all Wranglers since the YJ. The YJ and TJ are irritating because there is very little space between the brake pedal and the transmission tunnel. The JK and JL are better.

On my JK, if I am at full lock on the steering wheel and I press the brake, the RPMs go up by 400 to give power steering assist then the sudden influx of air from the booster seems to cause it to spike ungracefully. Super irritating if you are pulling into a parking spot and you are a lazy clutch pedal person. I have seen similar behavior on an auto JLUR.

I believe the real problem in my case is the depth of the brake pedal vs torque/accelerator pedal. The travel of the brake pedal is too great and too similar to distance from the seat as compared to the torque pedal. So if you are used to being a lazy brake pedal person like I am, you end up inadvertently pressing the stupid pedal near the end of the applicable stroke of the brake pedal, and then you go for an unplanned ride.

It's super irritating in a manual and terrifying in a slushbox.

Driving all my GM vehicles, I only ever brake with the bottom right off the pedal and never have these issue.

 

[Aonarch]

I know this thread has moved a bit, but I would definitely remove it, or else the tech/ dealer will just blame the dead pedal.

The pedal box on these is very small. I'm size 12D and feel cramped, I couldn't image larger feet in a JL.

 

[WillysMeow]

I know this thread has moved a bit, but I would definitely remove it, or else the tech/ dealer will just blame the dead pedal.

The pedal box on these is very small. I'm size 12D and feel cramped, I couldn't image larger feet in a JL.

I'm tall guy with size 12 shoes and find the footwell very roomy, you'd hate a Toyota pickup or Subaru lol.

Meh, leave the dead pedal, come awn it's on the other side of the footwell and bolted down...not going to move make you press the brake and gas concurrently.

 

[jcruse64]

I wear a size 12 shoe. Only time I've had interference was wearing my pull-on safety boots (ankle length) or my Muck boots. If I'm wearing those, I really have to be careful when driving my Wrangler or V-Dub Jetta, both auto-trans. But it's never been to the point of over-revving while braking. I'd take it in.

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