real electric range numbers.

[mllcb42]

Of course it can, but it has no way of knowing what the breakdown of the rest of your drive is going to be and the electric motor, even when less efficient, is still more efficient than unnecessarily running the ice.

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[BXFXJeep]

I had a drive today that was a perfect example of why this is a bad idea.

Went to work, popped it into e-save when I got on the highway, back into hybrid when I got off the highway to go to work.

Did the reverse coming home.

So I was in electric the entire time I was in city, ice the entire time on the highway.

When I got home, I had about 30% soc remaining. That's wasted gas I used that would have otherwise used electric.

Now, had I popped it over into electric part way through my highway drive home and timed it just right so that I reached <1% soc pulling into my driveway, I agree that this would have been the optimal efficiency profile, however, that would require me to know exactly the route I was taking and properly project when to switch modes to go back into electric. By burning the electric first, you at least remove any chance of coming back not on empty.

If you know you always want to deplete your battery, there is the Electric button for that specific use case.

The vast majority of times I'm on the highway, it's for longer, then when I exit the battery is 0%, and I'm in bumper to bumper traffic, now I just do it manually, but sometimes I forget to fiddle.

They could give us the option to choose if we want ICE to kick in at highway speeds, like they do with the options in e-save, basically allow us to tweak our tolerance based on our own driving habits.

 

[mllcb42]

If you know you always want to deplete your battery, there is the Electric button for that specific use case

Why would the default state be one that's likely to leave battery range on the table? It makes much more sense to default to a mode that's going to guarantee maximizing the battery usage and then leave it up to the driver to alter that if they're going to be doing a drive that exceeds the average use case.

 

[Rhinozeroone]

I get between 19 and 23 miles on my commute which is mostly high speed. I tend to put it in e-save for most of the high speed sections and go back to hybrid for the slower sections. My wife has a slower commute and gets between 26 and 33 miles.

 

[Gazelle]

My mileage depends mostly upon speed travelled. If I drive under 50 and stay off the steep hills, I will continue to use electric power for around 15miles. Usually, though, unless I'm driving to work 1.5 miles away, I need to do at least 65mph to avoid holding up traffic.

At highway speeds, it takes about 30 miles to burn through the battery charge in hybrid mode with gas & electric combined. This is on a lifted Rubicon on 37's, winch, steel rock sliders, roof rack with awning, etc. On long road trips without charging, I see around 18.5MPG at 65-70mph.

 

[Zam.hk]

I live in a small city, so most of my driving is under 80km/h. I get as low as 25km with -10C weather, and 30km now at around 5C, my wife get 35ish, she drive slower.

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