PUP shears less than Amsoil and Red Line

[Jeep Junkie]

It is crazy. I don't understand how PUP achieves such things with its GTL. Test done by Motor Oil Geek where he puts oils in a machine that chews the life out of them.

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[Flip]

Oh yes, pup all the way. You can't go wrong with pup. You really sniffed out some good info here. You're a real bloodhound, a regular houndini, a labracadabrador, a Sherlock bones.

 

[Tr4ckD4ys]

I just wish PUP had a higher HTHS and was in thickness closer to 5W-40 than to 5W-20. The lawnmower 2.0T is so much noisier with PUP than with Mobil1 ESP.

 

[Jeep Junkie]

I just wish PUP had a higher HTHS and was in thickness closer to 5W-40 than to 5W-20. The lawnmower 2.0T is so much noisier with PUP than with Mobil1 ESP.

Go PUP 0W-40

 

[GW’s JL]

All the results.

 

[Jeep Junkie]

All the results.

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[Tr4ckD4ys]

You know I’m just going to go ahead and admit that I don’t like PUP. I think in terms of value for the money it’s great, but it’s not a premium oil. It’s “the best” middle class oil out there. I really don’t get on board with its HTHS value. And before folks put me in a specific drawer: I think even less of Amsoil.

Redline and Driven are built-for-purpose oils that have no business inside a Jeep engine so the comparisons are moot to me.

 

[GW’s JL]

PDSC results(resistance to oxidation and thermal breakdown). The longer the better.

 

[Pape]

From the result above, I think I will give a try to mobile 1. My priority are on wear protection, torque and heat values. I change my oil every 3k so the rest is not that much of a issue. No I cannot bring myself to go liquid moly

 

[jadmt]

From the result above, I think I will give a try to mobile 1. My priority are on wear protection, torque and heat values. I change my oil every 3k so the rest is not that much of a issue. No I cannot bring myself to go liquid moly

The torque difference on a 3.6 might be 2-3ft/lbs between the best and pup. Never going to feel that.

 

[Pape]

The torque difference on a 3.6 might be 2-3ft/lbs between the best and pup. Never going to feel that.

Probably, still want to see how it fare in keeping me on 8 gear in my touring driving

 

[swampflyer]

You know I’m just going to go ahead and admit that I don’t like PUP. I think in terms of value for the money it’s great, but it’s not a premium oil. It’s “the best” middle class oil out there. I really don’t get on board with its HTHS value. And before folks put me in a specific drawer: I think even less of Amsoil.

Redline and Driven are built-for-purpose oils that have no business inside a Jeep engine so the comparisons are moot to me.

Then what do you use and recommend. I’m currently trying to decide what to use in my new hemi conversation it’s a 5.7 and they (AMW)fill with Mobil 5w20, used amsoil for years with no problems.

 

[jadmt]

Probably, still want to see how it fare in keeping me on 8 gear in my touring driving

never hurts to try new oil mobil1 is great oil no doubt but 2 or 3 ft/lbs of torq will not be noticeable in a 5000lb vehicle.. if you look at the difference in torq between the top performer and everything else in a V8 making ~470lb it is not that much no more than 4 or 5 ft/lbs so within 1%. The graphs with their color and scaling make it look more pleasing to the eye but just like wear metals there really is no difference.

 

[Pape]

never hurts to try new oil mobil1 is great oil no doubt but 2 or 3 ft/lbs of torq will not be noticeable in a 5000lb vehicle.. if you look at the difference in torq between the top and everything else in a V8 making ~470lb it is not that much no more than 4 or 5 ft/lbs so within 1%

It is not about noticing it is

never hurts to try new oil mobil1 is great oil no doubt but 2 or 3 ft/lbs of torq will not be noticeable in a 5000lb vehicle.. if you look at the difference in torq between the top performer and everything else in a V8 making ~470lb it is not that much no more than 4 or 5 ft/lbs so within 1%. The graphs with their color and scaling make it look more pleasing to the eye but just like wear metals there really is no difference.

I do not need much, depending on the weather I can achieve my goal, little more torque wil make it easier for me to achieve

 

[Tr4ckD4ys]

Then what do you use and recommend. I’m currently trying to decide what to use in my new hemi conversation it’s a 5.7 and they (AMW)fill with Mobil 5w20, used amsoil for years with no problems.

I almost certainly wouldn’t recommend what I use for this type engine. My 2.0T is extremely happy with Mobil1 ESP 5W30. It was also very happy with PUP 5W30, but I didn’t like the valve train chatter due to the lower HTHS. It’s a personal preference, like whether you like dark roast or light roast coffee (shame on you if you like light roast lol).
For the HEMI I’d probably go with PUP.

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