On Board Air Setups?

[Chocolate Thunder]

Tell us more about the Innovative AT underseat mount for the ARB double, and photos please.

I like that the air chuck is right there at the bottom of the seat frame. Easy to get to. Where is the toggle on-and-off switch to run the compressors? I'd wire it to the Aux switch, but where does the ARM toggle on/off switch go?

I see the Innovative AT shown below says it's compatible with the 2door and says "does not interfere or limit any of the seat movement."

https://rebeloffroad.com/innovative-products-arb-twin-compressor-4-tire-air-system-for-jeep-jl-jt/

Does it interfere when you fold the (2door) passenger seat all the way forward for someone to get in back? My back seat is out, stored in the garage 95% of the time, but when it's in there it's needed.

It’s a plate that mounts to the floor underneath the seat and the compressor mounts on the plate. Mine is wired directly to the factory AUX switch 1, I don’t know details because I had a shop do the electrical wiring instead of doing it myself. The ARB switch is omitted because the AUX controls it. I can’t help with any knowledge of 2 door related stuff as I have an Unlimited. I can’t see that it would make a difference as far as fitting under the seat, but if the 2 door seat slides forward more than a 4 door a rear passenger would need to be aware not to step on it or kick it getting in or out.

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[SparkleTooth]

I used to go the ARB compressor route, but I have recently switched over to a PowerTank. I think Im going to enjoy it.

 

[Omen]

I used to go the ARB compressor route, but I have recently switched over to a PowerTank. I think Im going to enjoy it.

I've been toting a a Viair 88p. Ok for 33" if you (and your friends, especially) are patient. I tried to fish a little bit for CO2 user experiences and have come up empty. If it's not too much to ask, can you relay your experiences here? I'm really interested since you have experience with both systems.
I am looking at Preece Precision or my CO2 needs. Power Tank is another option, as well.
If it's too much for the air compressor fans, you can comment in my build thread, where I posed the same question.

Thanks!

Omen

 

[SparkleTooth]

I've been toting a a Viair 88p. Ok for 33" if you (and your friends, especially) are patient. I tried to fish a little bit for CO2 user experiences and have come up empty. If it's not too much to ask, can you relay your experiences here? I'm really interested since you have experience with both systems.
I am looking at Preece Precision or my CO2 needs. Power Tank is another option, as well.
If it's too much for the air compressor fans, you can comment in my build thread, where I posed the same question.

Thanks!

Omen

To be honest I am very new to the PowerTank option, but through all of my research it appears that filling times are faster than the ARB compressor and a lot of other options. There are several videos out there of people timing these various options.
When I started looking for solutions I was going to opt for ARB since that is what I was used to but mounting and installing for the diesel has some challenges. Reliability can be hit or miss as well with the ARB from what I have seen.

The Power Tank is a really slick solution, easy to install, inflates super fast, and is pretty fail-safe. The only Con is that you have to occasionally get the Tank Refilled and you may need to plan your outings a little more based on your inflating needs. I opted for the 10lb tank but almost went with the 15lb. In the end the 10lb will suit my needs just fine.

 

[Omen]

To be honest I am very new to the PowerTank option, but through all of my research it appears that filling times are faster than the ARB compressor and a lot of other options. There are several videos out there of people timing these various options.
When I started looking for solutions I was going to opt for ARB since that is what I was used to but mounting and installing for the diesel has some challenges. Reliability can be hit or miss as well with the ARB from what I have seen.

The Power Tank is a really slick solution, easy to install, inflates super fast, and is pretty fail-safe. The only Con is that you have to occasionally get the Tank Refilled and you may need to plan your outings a little more based on your inflating needs. I opted for the 10lb tank but almost went with the 15lb. In the end the 10lb will suit my needs just fine.

Thanks for taking a minute to share your experiences!

Omen

 

[RubiSc0tt]

From my build thread. ARB Twin knock off, on the M.O.R.E. mount in the rear cargo area, w/ my DIY 4 tire inflation system. Worth every penny.

FINALLY got to use my DIY 4 tire air up system, and it worked great. 37’s went from 12psi to 37psi in 10-15 minutes, and cut my post trail load up time in half. By the time I got our gear repacked and the kids ready for the road, they were done! Wrapped the hoses and we were on our way home.

 

[J-Frame]

If you have the tow package I highly recommend this mod for the 300P. I forget which forum member told me about it but it works so much better than those alligator clips. Just leave enough of a pigtail on them when you cut them off in case you want to reinstall. What I like about this mod is you don’t have to pop the hood, and, if your Jeep is lifted the cord length on the 300P is barely enough to set it on the ground. This was problematic for me when I had to help a friend air up after his compressor took a dump. Now that it hooks up to the trailer plug I have a lot more cord length to work with in certain situations.

That is a really slick operation! I have an aftermarket tow wiring harness, and honestly don’t remember if it has 7- or 4-pin plug on it. I installed it for the ability to use a d-ring as a recovery point and to mount a bike rack, I doubt I’ll ever pull a trailer with it (have a Super Duty for that stuff).

What would be REALLY great is to have it rigged up so you could plug your alligator clips back into this and use them on a battery if you needed to. I know less than nothing about electric magic and wiring voodoo, but I like have flexibility.

 

[ChuckQue]

That is a really slick operation! I have an aftermarket tow wiring harness, and honestly don’t remember if it has 7- or 4-pin plug on it. I installed it for the ability to use a d-ring as a recovery point and to mount a bike rack, I doubt I’ll ever pull a trailer with it (have a Super Duty for that stuff).

What would be REALLY great is to have it rigged up so you could plug your alligator clips back into this and use them on a battery if you needed to. I know less than nothing about electric magic and wiring voodoo, but I like have flexibility.

I thought about incorporating some sort of plug break in the wire so I could swap back and forth. It shouldn’t be difficult, just need to make sure it’s sized properly for the application. But yeah, I really dig the plug setup!

 

[4LO4PLAY]

I didn’t want an installed system in my Rubicon, need to take it in my truck, trailers, wife’s car etc. And I had a budget. I also don’t like putting that much into say a twin ARB (and I would really love to have one,..) because I will end up trading, and either get $0 return, or have to take it off and reinstall.

So, I got a Viair 300P for portable use, plugging into my vehicle battery. Then got a 110v for use around the house. Stayed within my budget and have the bases covered.

And the Viair bag has my ARB deflator, tire patch kit, rubber gloves, leather gloves, valve stems, valve cores, and the associated tools in it. Very good set up for me.

Yeah a lot of people suggested the portable viair set up for cheaper cost and it was convenient to be able to use it on different trucks if need be. What comes with the portable viair?

 

[NULL POINTER]

If you have the tow package I highly recommend this mod for the 300P. I forget which forum member told me about it but it works so much better than those alligator clips. Just leave enough of a pigtail on them when you cut them off in case you want to reinstall. What I like about this mod is you don’t have to pop the hood, and, if your Jeep is lifted the cord length on the 300P is barely enough to set it on the ground. This was problematic for me when I had to help a friend air up after his compressor took a dump. Now that it hooks up to the trailer plug I have a lot more cord length to work with in certain situations.

More details please. I have the Viair 450P, which draws about 25 amps, give or take IIRC.

 

[ChuckQue]

More details please. I have the Viair 450P, which draws about 25 amps, give or take IIRC.

I don’t know enough about electrical stuff to give you an answer as to whether this would work with the 450P. As far as what I did, there’s a thread here somewhere that details how to do it. All I did was purchase a male trailer plug replacement and screw the positive wire to the aux power terminal and the negative to the ground. It was very easy. Just make sure you leave some wire on the alligator clips in the event you want to solder them back on for whatever reason.

 

[NULL POINTER]

I don’t know enough about electrical stuff to give you an answer as to whether this would work with the 450P. As far as what I did, there’s a thread here somewhere that details how to do it. All I did was purchase a male trailer plug replacement and screw the positive wire to the aux power terminal and the negative to the ground. It was very easy. Just make sure you leave some wire on the alligator clips in the event you want to solder them back on for whatever reason.

Thanks. I get what you did now. My 450P manual says it draws 23 amps max. Only downside to doing this for me is that I would lose the capabilty to carry it in my other vehicles that don't have 7 pin hookups. Great mod, and thanks for posting about it.

 

[ChuckQue]

Thanks. I get what you did now. My 450P manual says it draws 23 amps max. Only downside to doing this for me is that I would lose the capabilty to carry it in my other vehicles that don't have 7 pin hookups. Great mod, and thanks for posting about it.

We are fortunate that our vehicles we’d use the Viair for all have 7 pin hookups. Such a useful mod!

 

[J-Frame]

Yeah a lot of people suggested the portable viair set up for cheaper cost and it was convenient to be able to use it on different trucks if need be. What comes with the portable viair?

Obviously, the compressor itself, a very nice bag. The hose is the quick-connect kind, and has an accurate dial gauge (at least mine is dead on when checked with a known gauge). The hose also has a quick deflator that is in-line with the gauge. I actually use it more than my ARB quick deflate that unscrews the valve core.
I added tire patch kit, another pencil type gauge, couple pairs of gloves. It all fits easily in the bag. Just grab it and put it in whatever vehicle I‘m driving. The built-in systems are awesome, but I need a tire kit in multiple vehicles, and I will not spend the money for three ARB twins! Heck I have less than $400 in my entire setup, and it works well, for me at least.

 

[3TV]

I need to stop buying different offroad vehicles. On the plus side though, it has allowed me to try out a number of different on board and portable air inflation systems. For a vehicle with small tires, that only need low pressure, such as an ATV or UTV, a Viair portable compressor works well. They are a quality compressor that is going to be reliable, and gets the job done with minimal fuss or expense. I own 4 of them that are kept in different off road vehicles. For a vehicle with 37" or bigger tires a Viair is just too slow, and will take three times as long to air up tires compared to an ARB twin.
So for a Jeep the ARB twin is my compressor of choice, hard mounted, so you don't have to worry about not bringing it when you need it. I've tried several different mounting systems. I've used the Grimm underhood mount, an under the passenger seat mount, and the M.O.R.E. mount that mounts it to the driver side of the body tub, right behind the rear seat. Of those three mounting positions I prefer the M.O.R.E. mounting position the best. It keeps the compressor inside where it is protected from weather and engine heat. And it doesn't require modification to the air conditioning ducts under the passenger seat that help keep rear seat passengers cool.

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