Slight creep is because clutch is not fully disengaged. You have mentioned applying more of "the magic grease" and i assumed that is to alleviate the creep you are experiencing.
Just read your post, our shifting experiences are identical now after using dry lube, and you described it very well in your words:
The issue with wrong grease was the normal grease that some shops use loses its lubrication properties as it gets more and more clutch material in it. It seems to get sticky, which is the opposite of what you want. Not all grease is created equal.
I think my annoying noise might be caused by not enough grease on the throwout bearing sliding surface(assuming it’s not hydraulics). So far it is just an annoyance that I haven’t done much to fix since I don’t have any driving issues. The creep is always present, the noise is only after the vehicle warms up. The creeping forward I’m questioning if the disc is sticking just slightly and causing the issue. It will only creep for a split second. And I can rev the motor after and no movement in any gear. Without letting off the clutch pedal and shifting into any gear any amount of times it will not move. Once I release the pedal and press it again and go to put into any gear slight creep again. The creep is so minor I’ve had it up on jack stands and can hold the back tire by hand from the driver seat (2 door jeep) and stop the tires from ever moving, but can feel a little force.
All grease will lose lubricating properties with enough contamination in it.
No one said it is self cleaning, just that some grease handles the contamination better than others. As I said before, not all grease is created equal.
Yeah I read your post about trying dry lube but I think it was after the clutch was already back in. So my hope is by removing that graphite lubricant and going back to ceramic it will go back to shifting like normal.
What does it mean "handles better"?
I get your frustration, but fuck dude. No one has any specific data. We all have the same info as everyone else here. There is no definitive number because every one drives different. All we can do is all share our stories so we can try to put the pieces together.
I was having issues of either not being able to get into gear (1st and reverse) where it felt like I was hitting a wall or 1st or reverse would stick and I had to give a strong pull to get it out of gear as the clutch pedal seemed to do nothing. I took it to a shop and they determined that the previous shop had used Red N' Tacky and it was causing sticking and the shift fork wasn't engaging properly. The shop talked to Centerforce and I purchased the hydraulic throw out bearing. The difference is amazing and it is a joy to drive. The clutch pedal engagement is smooth, linear, and consistent in the take up point. I wish they had the hydraulic throw out bearing when I bought the kit back in early 2023.
Did they use grease at all with the CFII kit? I've been trying to find any kind of install video or instructions on that. I had been told that they recommend the dry moly lube for the CFII.
I wasn't there for the removal of the shift fork and plastic throw out bearing and installation of the hydraulic throw out bearing, but the mechanic spent plenty of time on the phone with Centerforce prior to installation. The kit comes with a new master cylinder at the clutch pedal (that may not be the proper term), a stainless line with heat protection on it, and all the necessary installation goodies. I had him save the vacuum discs so that I could bleed the system if necessary.
Ah ok I found some instructions on install and it says it comes pre-lubed with dry moly.
Which seems to be happening anyway…. Just sayin’
