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a 50K Jeep? Where do you find that!

I agree with what you say about damage, this has been the hardest decision on my build, my wife is even making fun of my Indecisiveness, BTW your jeep looks great!


The search for the perfect slider continues
I paid around 46 for mine. Had to order it to get that price. I doubt you’re going to find the perfect slider, not sure it exists. You have to weigh how you’ll use it with the look you want. LOD make’s incredible stuff. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy from them. Call them up and talk to them about your concerns.
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You realize the body mount is just an ear on the frame don’t you? The sliders mount to bottom of the solid ear, the body sits on top of the puck which sits on top of the solid ear. The ears don’t move with the body. Keep trying though.
Maybe you should check out how the Destroyer's mount. They bolt to the frame mount as well as the side and bottom of the frame. Those ACE sliders you have are held in place by the same bolt that holds the body mount bushing. Any force on the slider up or down can and will compress the bushing and allow the slider to move. That is why you are getting away with zero clearance. It's not magic.
 
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The reality is any slider will flex, as will the surface it is mounted to. More gap is not necessarily better. Most won’t have the stomach for what I did (lots of drilling on that brand new Jeep body) but I run Ace sliders with Ace rocker protectors AND the factory rubicon sliders. Everything is basically 0 clearance, but the load gets spread out along a much larger surface so I can bash rocks with 0 damage. I was actually not impressed with the Ace products at all (terrible welds, shady powder coat, and poorly positioned mounting holes on the rocker protection), but they’ve been pretty indestructible. The 2 bottom photos are pre-lift, but the best close-ups that I have of the rocker protection. If you’re gonna wheel a $50k Jeep, don’t whine when you get a little body damage. I don’t blame LOD for a second, they offered you a discount for a different set of sliders, they didn’t need to offer anything. I don’t really understand what you mean when you say they left you hanging for 4 months, they don’t owe you anything. This activity causes damage, get used to it.
I paid around 46 for mine. Had to order it to get that price. I doubt you’re going to find the perfect slider, not sure it exists. You have to weigh how you’ll use it with the look you want. LOD make’s incredible stuff. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy from them. Call them up and talk to them about your concerns.
Anyways thanks dad
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The reality is any slider will flex, as will the surface it is mounted to. More gap is not necessarily better. Most won’t have the stomach for what I did (lots of drilling on that brand new Jeep body) but I run Ace sliders with Ace rocker protectors AND the factory rubicon sliders. Everything is basically 0 clearance, but the load gets spread out along a much larger surface so I can bash rocks with 0 damage. I was actually not impressed with the Ace products at all (terrible welds, shady powder coat, and poorly positioned mounting holes on the rocker protection), but they’ve been pretty indestructible. The 2 bottom photos are pre-lift, but the best close-ups that I have of the rocker protection. If you’re gonna wheel a $50k Jeep, don’t whine when you get a little body damage. I don’t blame LOD for a second, they offered you a discount for a different set of sliders, they didn’t need to offer anything. I don’t really understand what you mean when you say they left you hanging for 4 months, they don’t owe you anything. This activity causes damage, get used to it.
I really dont mind getting body damage but most cerntainly don’t want to pay 900$ for it when the design could have been a bit better. They made it seems like they were gonna help me out and maybe send me some sort of updated part or washers only to turn around and say they can’t help way later. I would have rather them told me to buzz off from day 1 so could have moved on quicker and not wait for an answer some months later
I do understand they don’t have to do anything but I just thought the experience wasn’t good with them

Some here will disagree I get it
Not bashing them completely as I know they make decent stuff I just don’t feel I was treated right
That’s my experience
Glad yours was better
Also this is pertaining to the old version ( not current updated destroyer sliders )

thanks for your input
 
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Atleast one good thing happened. They made them to fit better for you all. I just wish they would have went about this a better way with me.
Anyways thanks dad ?

white knuckle is my choice but it’s 1300$
Anyways thanks dad

I really dont mind getting body damage but most cerntainly don’t want to pay 900$ for it when the design could have been a bit better. They made it seems like they were gonna help me out and maybe send me some sort of updated part or washers only to turn around and say they can’t help way later. I would have rather them told me to buzz off from day 1 so could have moved on quicker and not wait for an answer some months later
I do understand they don’t have to do anything but I just thought the experience wasn’t good with them

Some here will disagree I get it
Not bashing them completely as I know they make decent stuff I just don’t feel I was treated right
That’s my experience
Glad yours was better
Also this is pertaining to the old version ( not current updated destroyer sliders )

thanks for your input
We are sorry it didn't work out for you. Our team did escalated the issue to engineering and upper management and sometimes it takes a while to gather all the info and explain it over and over to each other. However, we make no guarantees that our sliders will prevent all body damage, there is just too many variables. I know you have heard it a million times by now, but your situation was out of the ordinary. We literally have only seen body damage 2 maybe 3 times tops across all of our slider offerings. We have gone back and fourth dozens of times measuring and checking our sliders off our fixtures against Jeeps, and one thing is clear... These Jeep frames are all over the place.

Hell, on our Gladiator the center body mount on our passenger side isn't even welded square to the frame! That forces our slider mounts up towards the body really close. On the driver side there is a 3/4" gap. The only thing you can do is shoot down the middle. We cannot change the designs too much because 95% of the sliders fit just fine. But if we change them, we potentially screw up a whole lot of sliders, and that's a big deal when your shipping hundreds of sliders every month!

The new Destroyer Design has been in the works for a long time, and is not necessarily a result of issues like the one you had. The new design uses the same mounts as our Armor Lite series, which are a bit stronger. The design change was more about modularity and ease of manufacturing and shipping. Cost of everything these days is crazy. We are doing our best to adapt by updating older designs while maintaining high quality and reasonable cost!
 

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We are sorry it didn't work out for you. Our team did escalated the issue to engineering and upper management and sometimes it takes a while to gather all the info and explain it over and over to each other. However, we make no guarantees that our sliders will prevent all body damage, there is just too many variables. I know you have heard it a million times by now, but your situation was out of the ordinary. We literally have only seen body damage 2 maybe 3 times tops across all of our slider offerings. We have gone back and fourth dozens of times measuring and checking our sliders off our fixtures against Jeeps, and one thing is clear... These Jeep frames are all over the place.

Hell, on our Gladiator the center body mount on our passenger side isn't even welded square to the frame! That forces our slider mounts up towards the body really close. On the driver side there is a 3/4" gap. The only thing you can do is shoot down the middle. We cannot change the designs too much because 95% of the sliders fit just fine. But if we change them, we potentially screw up a whole lot of sliders, and that's a big deal when your shipping hundreds of sliders every month!

The new Destroyer Design has been in the works for a long time, and is not necessarily a result of issues like the one you had. The new design uses the same mounts as our Armor Lite series, which are a bit stronger. The design change was more about modularity and ease of manufacturing and shipping. Cost of everything these days is crazy. We are doing our best to adapt by updating older designs while maintaining high quality and reasonable cost!
Thanks for the clear explanation. The next time this comes up at one of your internal meetings please bring up our request for spacers. Stacking washers is less than ideal because it puts the load in the center of the span where it can "oil can". If 1/8" and 1/4" spacers cut to the same shape as the bracket were available we could fine tune the alignment. Several of us have stated we'd be happy to pay extra for them too, not asking for a freebee here...
 

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Mitigate as much deflection as possible and shim as much clearance as necessary...

... or go weld on and make your own clearance with the least deflection. Stop hoping steel doesn't deflect and single point fasteners are as structurally rigid as welds.
 

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Thanks for the clear explanation. The next time this comes up at one of your internal meetings please bring up our request for spacers. Stacking washers is less than ideal because it puts the load in the center of the span where it can "oil can". If 1/8" and 1/4" spacers cut to the same shape as the bracket were available we could fine tune the alignment. Several of us have stated we'd be happy to pay extra for them too, not asking for a freebee here...
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Mitigate as much deflection as possible and shim as much clearance as necessary...

... or go weld on and make your own clearance with the least deflection. Stop hoping steel doesn't deflect and single point fasteners are as structurally rigid as welds.
I take your point, but I suspect part of the issue is the JL's thinner high strength frame. It twists. So unless you go full medieval and add some bracing under the belly sliders are going to deflect.
 

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I take your point, but I suspect part of the issue is the JL's thinner high strength frame. It twists. So unless you go full medieval and add some bracing under the belly sliders are going to deflect.
You think Jeep is bad, you should see the deflection in the Bronco frame!
 
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We are sorry it didn't work out for you. Our team did escalated the issue to engineering and upper management and sometimes it takes a while to gather all the info and explain it over and over to each other. However, we make no guarantees that our sliders will prevent all body damage, there is just too many variables. I know you have heard it a million times by now, but your situation was out of the ordinary. We literally have only seen body damage 2 maybe 3 times tops across all of our slider offerings. We have gone back and fourth dozens of times measuring and checking our sliders off our fixtures against Jeeps, and one thing is clear... These Jeep frames are all over the place.

Hell, on our Gladiator the center body mount on our passenger side isn't even welded square to the frame! That forces our slider mounts up towards the body really close. On the driver side there is a 3/4" gap. The only thing you can do is shoot down the middle. We cannot change the designs too much because 95% of the sliders fit just fine. But if we change them, we potentially screw up a whole lot of sliders, and that's a big deal when your shipping hundreds of sliders every month!

The new Destroyer Design has been in the works for a long time, and is not necessarily a result of issues like the one you had. The new design uses the same mounts as our Armor Lite series, which are a bit stronger. The design change was more about modularity and ease of manufacturing and shipping. Cost of everything these days is crazy. We are doing our best to adapt by updating older designs while maintaining high quality and reasonable cost!
I get what your saying about how all are different and flex
It’s just hard when it’s brand new
I just felt ignored and stood up
Website was a bit misleading
Guess I was hoping for a better outcome with them
 

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We got Spacers, if you need some give us a call!
I just bought the LoD Destroyer sliders from Northridge for my 4xe Rubi and, after initial fitting-check install, bummed to see I'd need front spacers. LoD quickly sent me a pair of spacers, angled perfectly for the frame and powdercoated, too. Nice. Did a quick fit-check with the spacers and now I'll be good to go for drilling the passnger side hole in the frame. I'll post pics when I get the chance to get it done. LoD customer service was excellent, IMHO.?
 
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Glad it worked out
I was never offered spacers so I had to get rid of them. I know they were in the works but wasn’t worth a few months wait at the time
 

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@lodoffroad I see that the newest version of has the bolt on application. When did the new version go into production? Is there anyway to tell from the exterior unopened packaging (box labeling) which version it is?

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@lodoffroad I see that the newest version of has the bolt on application. When did the new version go into production? Is there anyway to tell from the exterior unopened packaging (box labeling) which version it is?

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The new style went into production just a few weeks ago. You'll know if you have two boxes, one long one with the sliders and one with the mounts.

These new Destroyers use the same mounting as our Armor Lite Sliders. In an effort to streamline manufacturing and shipping.
 

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@lodoffroad who do I need to contact to get the spacers? I ordered my Destroyers from Northridge in May. Thanks!
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