Kinetic Energy Rope

[The Last Cowboy]

The biggest issue with straps, ropes and chains is using improper attachment points. I have seen people do serious and/or dangerous damage attaching to suspension, axles and steering components. Not to mention the bumpers.

I refuse to pull someone unless I attach both ends or I am confident of their ability, which usually only takes about 10 seconds to see.

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[J0E]

Here's how you attach a 20 foot, 1.25" Bubba rope so it's easy to access and doesn't take up any space.

 

[Badfish]

Looking at buying a recovery rope, but unsure of which company makes a quality one. Bubba rope, Voodoo, and Factor 55 are the ones I am looking at currently. Go with 3/4' or 7/8"?

haven't seen one up close yet; but they basically look and behave like mooring lines.

I'd be annoyed to buy one and then find out that is exactly what it is... I could make one on the cheap.

 

[Badfish]

Be careful giving Yankum too much credit, they are a reseller not a manufacturer. Factor55 has theirs made by a company in TX that does ropes for marine & shipping. Yankum is just a reseller, they don't design or make anything in the ropes and just had the same company make their ropes as Factor55. I'm really confused by what Yankum does, because they aren't rope designers and there isn't any marine industry in ID where all this rope technology comes from. Their kinetic rope is the exact same thing Factor55 is having produced so it is a quality product.

Another company who I've and a lot of my local jeepers have used a ton is MasterPull. I highly recommend them for winch lines and kinetic ropes. Excellent company who designs and produces ropes. The people who are making ropes and rigging equipment for the marine industry are the ones who know their stuff.

Bubba ropes makes good products.

yeah all of these "Kinetic" ropes just appear to be double braided Samson lines. I think I'll just get a 30' length of 1" and tie loops at the ends. I don't think my use of it would warrant me to splice eyes in it.

Wonder if anyone has a broken line they can snap a picture of the core for us...will tell a lot if its samson or similar product.

7/8" samson is like $1.50/ft and 1-1/2" is around $5/ft.

 

[brewski]

yeah all of these "snatch" ropes just appear to be double braided Samson lines. I think I'll just get a 30' length of 1" and tie loops at the ends. I don't think my use of it would warrant me to splice eyes in it.

Wonder if anyone has a broken line they can snap a picture of the core for us...will tell a lot if its samson or similar product.

7/8" samson is like $1.50/ft and 1-1/2" is around $5/ft.

I can't speak for all brands, but Snatch (like ARB) and Kinetic (Masterpull, Factor55, Bubba) are very different and made differently. It has been a long time since I've seen a cut one, but I remember the internal weave being different and more of a bungie or rubbery type material and then the outside was more of a normal rope material to protect the internals and done in a specific weave to allow the stretch of the internal strands. I'm sure you can find info or pictures online if you searched. I do know that weaving together a broken kinetic rope is a royal pain to do (according to the guy I know at MasterPull who builds ropes for a living). But again, it has been many years since I saw a broken one and my memory could be off.

 

[Sublime]

I can't speak for all brands, but Snatch (like ARB) and Kinetic (Masterpull, Factor55, Bubba) are very different and made differently. It has been a long time since I've seen a cut one, but I remember the internal weave being different and more of a bungie or rubbery type material and then the outside was more of a normal rope material to protect the internals and done in a specific weave to allow the stretch of the internal strands. I'm sure you can find info or pictures online if you searched. I do know that weaving together a broken kinetic rope is a royal pain to do (according to the guy I know at MasterPull who builds ropes for a living). But again, it has been many years since I saw a broken one and my memory could be off.

Yankum just put up a Youtube on how to make a new end. Looks tedious but not really a PITA.

Edit: Oh crud, I just realized that was a winch line they put a new end on. My bad, sorry.

 

[Badfish]

I can't speak for all brands, but Snatch (like ARB) and Kinetic (Masterpull, Factor55, Bubba) are very different and made differently. It has been a long time since I've seen a cut one, but I remember the internal weave being different and more of a bungie or rubbery type material and then the outside was more of a normal rope material to protect the internals and done in a specific weave to allow the stretch of the internal strands. I'm sure you can find info or pictures online if you searched. I do know that weaving together a broken kinetic rope is a royal pain to do (according to the guy I know at MasterPull who builds ropes for a living). But again, it has been many years since I saw a broken one and my memory could be off.

yeah realized I was commenting on kinetic lines vs the snatch straps... (edited). I've spliced and braided these for a long time... they can be time consuming if one doesn't know what they are doing but it is very straight forward.

the ones with nylon cores are much stronger/elastic.

 

[Badfish]

Yankum just put up a Youtube on how to make a new end. Looks tedious but not really a PITA.

yeah just looked at a matts recovery video and they cut one open and this is just a double braid super strong line from samson.




the specs on it from yankum are right in line with https://samsonrope.com/mooring/super-strong

 

[brewski]

yeah just looked at a matts recovery video and they cut one open and this is just a double braid super strong line from samson.




the specs on it from yankum are right in line with https://samsonrope.com/mooring/super-strong

That was a great video. I like that Mad Matt guy, I've seen his videos before. He definitely improves the knowledge about recovery. I found that video really interesting and clearly part of my memory is incorrect since it looks like the outer and inner could be the same material or at least not blatantly different like I remembered, but just weaved differently. All these recovery ropes come from the marine industry so I'm not surprised it is just something you can buy a lot cheaper (directly from samson) if buying raw stock. These companies have to cover their labor in making the ropes and then add some % on top of that to make money.
The guy I know at masterpull was talking about splicing a broken kinetic line back together in the field when jeeping. He wasn't talking about making one out of fresh material in the shop w/ all his tools.

 

[Badfish]

These companies have to cover their labor in making the ropes and then add some % on top of that to make money.

I am in the wrong business... lol the margins on these lines are insane.

 

[Twowheels19]

These kinetic recovery ropes look to be made very similar to what I’ve used to do large wire and cable pulls in the electrical trade over the years. Same double braid with engineered stretch and durability.

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