A year ago there were good discounts due to employee pricing, but when those ended about end of May as I recall all of the dealers in my area went back up to near MSRP, or they advertised discounts then tacked on hidden costs to get the final price back up. Maybe pre- calendar year 2020 there were better discounts. I don't think there have been good discounts on in-stock inventory in the past 11 months, at least not within the 1000 mile radius of my area where I was searching.Many of us did not pay MSRP. MSRP on my 19 was almost $42K and change but I paid $36800 (before dealer fees and taxes). Vroom offered me $38,400.