Inverted Window Controls? Or am I just crazy.

[Beachcomber72]

So, slight issue here. With window up if I hold in the up position window goes down.

This did reactivate the one touch feature, however now the windows are one touch up not one touch down. Controls are still flipped up is down/down is up

Ok so get in with all the windows fully in the up position and while holding the window switch in a normal downward direction hold it down for 8 seconds while turning the ignition on.

Meaning get in and start holding the switch down before you ever touch the ignition switch.

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[Erock482]

Ok so get in with all the windows fully in the up position and while holding the window switch in a normal downward direction hold it down for 8 seconds while turning the ignition on.

Meaning get in and start holding the switch down before you ever touch the ignition switch.

Attempted this, no change.

 

[Erock482]

I really... really doubt the issue is with the wiring on the doors.. I cannot imagine the repair shop actually disassembling the switches and messing with them.... and even then... the connectors only connect in one way... I cannot imagine a repair shop modifying a wiring harness just for the fun of it.. unless a connector broke and they reassembled it incorrectly..

I would look into the connector going from the door to the body first before you start disassembling the door.... which let me tell you.. it is not fun at all..

The body was removed from the frame durring repairs, atleast according to the write up I received. damage to a connector could have been possible at that step, which seems to be the most likely culprit

 

[mwilk012]

I really... really doubt the issue is with the wiring on the doors.. I cannot imagine the repair shop actually disassembling the switches and messing with them.... and even then... the connectors only connect in one way... I cannot imagine a repair shop modifying a wiring harness just for the fun of it.. unless a connector broke and they reassembled it incorrectly..

I would look into the connector going from the door to the body first before you start disassembling the door.... which let me tell you.. it is not fun at all..

Both doors are doing it. Probably not in the door.

 

[Erock482]

Dug up a wirring diagram, flipped wires on the switch would seem most likely. Need to snag my multi meter and confirm at the door connection since thats probably the easiest spot to check first.

 

[Beachcomber72]

Attempted this, no change.

So the first procedure I wrote worked but only in regards to the one touch feature of the switch?

 

[Erock482]

So the first procedure I wrote worked but only in regards to the one touch feature of the switch?

Correct, this did reset enough of the system to get that back in working order, but much like the switch controls being flipped, one touch down is now one touch up.

 

[kah.mun.rah]

Are the lock buttons reversed as well?

 

[Erock482]

Are the lock buttons reversed as well?

Excellent question, I just checked and they are not. Side mirror adjustment controls on the driver door are also good to go. That would imply the bust in the electrical is between the door and the switch, assuming connections at the window motors have not been flipped.

 

[mwilk012]

The switches aren’t really just switches, unfortunately. It’s probably just a bad switch.

 

[Beachcomber72]

Our windows may not be utilizing the general Euro/US programming style and may be using the Asian style programming which uses a control unit memory feature, so try this method instead.


1. Turn the ignition to ON(ll)
2. Lower the window all the way down with the window switch.
3. Open the driver's or front passenger's door.
Note: Do steps 4 thru 7 within 5 seconds of each other. DO these steps a total of four times in a row. These steps clear the control unit memory.

4. Turn the ignition switch to lock(0)
5. Push down and hold the power window switch.
6. Turn the ignition switch to on (ll)
7. Release the power window switch.
Note: Make sure the auto-up feature doesn't work. If it does, repeat steps 4 thru 7 again, paying close attention to the 5 second time limit for up to 3 more times for each series steps.
8. Lower the window all the way down with the power window switch.
9. Pull up and hold the power window switch until the window goes all the way up, then keep holding the switch for 1 second.
Note: Make sure the auto-up/down feature works correctly by lowering and raising the window with the power window switch. If it doesn't work correctly, repeat the manual reset several times, paying close attention to the 5 seconds time limit.

 

[Erock482]

Our windows may not be utilizing the general Euro/US programming style and may be using the Asian style programming which uses a control unit memory feature, so try this method instead.


1. Turn the ignition to ON(ll)
2. Lower the window all the way down with the window switch.
3. Open the driver's or front passenger's door.
Note: Do steps 4 thru 7 within 5 seconds of each other. DO these steps a total of four times in a row. These steps clear the control unit memory.

4. Turn the ignition switch to lock(0)
5. Push down and hold the power window switch.
6. Turn the ignition switch to on (ll)
7. Release the power window switch.
Note: Make sure the auto-up feature doesn't work. If it does, repeat steps 4 thru 7 again, paying close attention to the 5 second time limit for up to 3 more times for each series steps.
8. Lower the window all the way down with the power window switch.
9. Pull up and hold the power window switch until the window goes all the way up, then keep holding the switch for 1 second.
Note: Make sure the auto-up/down feature works correctly by lowering and raising the window with the power window switch. If it doesn't work correctly, repeat the manual reset several times, paying close attention to the 5 seconds time limit.

Would "Lock" be off or accessory in the case of a three position push button for ignition switch?

 

[Beachcomber72]

Would "Lock" be off or accessory in the case of a three position push button for ignition switch?

Off.

 

[CaJLMetalHead]

Here is another diagram.. this is from another source.. basically the same thing:

Since yours is a two door... then only this part applies:

I still fail to see a change in the wiring that causes both windows to act the same way

The Diagram shows that this panel also provides power to
interior lights system (to illuminate the backlight of the switches).. if the power lines are inverted then I imagine the switches won't illuminate as they are most likely LED.. and
LED lights can only be polarized one way for them to work

For the hypothesis of the power cables being inverted to be feasible, then it has
to happen before they enter the switch panel ... I don't really see how that is possible
(and if it happened then it comes from a power distribution panel, and well
I imagine you would be having bigger issues than inverted switches.. ).. I am
not saying I am right... I am just trying to wrap my head around this issue.. LOL

I think either mwilk012 or beachcomber is probably right.. the switch panel
is defective... or it is a matter of reprograming the switches somehow

 

[Beachcomber72]

This is really odd given the fact that the one touch operation of your switches came back to life using the first set of programming instructions I gave. I’ll go down and hop in the jeep and see if I can reverse the operation of my switches using the previous instructions I wrote.
We used to do this all the time at BMW.

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