How many here actually off-road? Why the stigma?

[IdowaJeeper]

In doing research on the purchase of my new 4xe (is it 4xe, or 4Xe, or 4xE, or ?) I ran across some forum and internet comments which indicated that the perception was that the 4xe was typically driven by folks who only wanted the image of a Jeep Wrangler owner, along with being friendly to the planet, while not actually ever going off-road.

For myself, I am definitely not that kind of owner.

When I go down to Arizona every winter for vacation, I go out in the desert with my folks and their Jeep club and tackle some fairly technical trails. The first year I borrowed one of their Wranglers; a 1989 lifted TJ...

The next year and for another couple years, I brought my new 2019 4Runner with mild lift and 33" tires. The Jeep club people were not amused that I could go everywhere that they went, lol...

When I show up this winter in my new Wrangler Unlimited on 35s, I'm sure I will get a warmer reception, lol.

I will use my 4xe the same as I used my 4Runner; to go explore the Idaho mountains and Arizona deserts without purposely doing extreme trails or rock-crawling. I actually go off-road in the mountains and deserts and need a vehicle with plenty of clearance and traction.

Just curious as to how many other 4xe owners actually go wheeling and if the stigma of them being owned by mall crawlers and gravel road dwellers is deserved or not.

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[lindaspins]

We bought the 4xe for offroading- otherwise we wouldn't own Jeeps.
It's got a lift now, so I'm looking forward to our next trip out west and being able to expand our trail options!

 

[azwjowner]

As someone who does tons of offroad driving in Arizona, the 4xe makes no sense because the battery MPG advantage is lost (and in fact is a negative impact) when driving hundreds of miles in a day to get somewhere, and the last thing you want in an offroad vehicle is extra weight, and the battery adds quite a bit (aren't 4xes 700 pounds heavier?). So someone looking for offroad capability as the #1 priority would never buy a 4xe.

But generally? It's as capable as any other Jeep. I would never denigrate owning one. Get out and explore.

 

[Aonar]

Going to be tough for a true comparison since you do have MCers in every Jeep model configuration. More or less in one vs the other: Who knows.

When I had my winch installed on this one, the owner told the fellow who I was working through that I was a poser (aka mallcrawler owner) because my JP was new. What the hell did I need a winch for? What he didn't realize is that I had his shop add the lift, wheels and tires to my 2012 less than a year before. I made sure to send the shop pics from my Colorado trip.

People will think what they want. If you get a hankerin' to prove them wrong, send them pics Mine was still stock height and had oem AT tires when I did the badge trails you see here.

 

[Samson16]

Heck, I bought our Sahara for my wife exactly as a cool mall crawler with more personality and more capability than any wannabe crossover suv out there.

We found out that we joined a family of Jeep owners and that makes it even better!

Edit: Jeep is the standard all 4x4s are held to. I doubt anything stock comes close to a stock JL Rubicon.

 

[gonzoflick]

As someone who does tons of offroad driving in Arizona, the 4xe makes no sense because the battery MPG advantage is lost (and in fact is a negative impact) when driving hundreds of miles in a day to get somewhere, and the last thing you want in an offroad vehicle is extra weight, and the battery adds quite a bit (aren't 4xes 700 pounds heavier?). So someone looking for offroad capability as the #1 priority would never buy a 4xe.

But generally? It's as capable as any other Jeep. I would never denigrate owning one. Get out and explore.

So have you ever run Moab, Rubicon Trail, Colorado trails COMPLETELY SILENT with doors off and windows open. I have.. in my 4xe

 

[Mudduck]

Wouldn't that heavy ass battery pack help keep your center of gravity lower?

 

[Astro Jeep]

I'm a diesel, and I live to off-road. Sometimes, I even get stuck! I have only seen a few 4xe types on the trails, but I'd wheel with them if asked unless they were Greta Doucheberg types.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

In doing research on the purchase of my new 4xe (is it 4xe, or 4Xe, or 4xE, or ?) I ran across some forum and internet comments which indicated that the perception was that the 4xe was typically driven by folks who only wanted the image of a Jeep Wrangler owner, along with being friendly to the planet, while not actually ever going off-road.

For myself, I am definitely not that kind of owner.

When I go down to Arizona every winter for vacation, I go out in the desert with my folks and their Jeep club and tackle some fairly technical trails. The first year I borrowed one of their Wranglers; a 1989 lifted TJ...

The next year and for another couple years, I brought my new 2019 4Runner with mild lift and 33" tires. The Jeep club people were not amused that I could go everywhere that they went, lol...

When I show up this winter in my new Wrangler Unlimited on 35s, I'm sure I will get a warmer reception, lol.

I will use my 4xe the same as I used my 4Runner; to go explore the Idaho mountains and Arizona deserts without purposely doing extreme trails or rock-crawling. I actually go off-road in the mountains and deserts and need a vehicle with plenty of clearance and traction.

Just curious as to how many other 4xe owners actually go wheeling and if the stigma of them being owned by mall crawlers and gravel road dwellers is deserved or not.

I dabble in a little bit of off-roading...

...

With that 20 mi range, I can go just far enough to get stuck in the woods before my battery explodes!!

 

[HK1s]

where I live the terrain is flat as runway, I wanted to do off road but the best fun I am having is drifting in the snow, with the short wheel base 2 door its a lot of fun, when I see no cars and people I hit the gas and lose the rear end.

 

[GinaC]

I've been a Jeep owner since 2002, and have always wanted to try offroading, but just never got around to it. I just always loved watching guys drive around in doorless CJ's when I was a kid. That was the dream!

Fast forward to this summer when I bought my new 4xe. The only "offroading" I do is when I want to go to a farm auction or something. Most of the time those roads are not paved and I see cars having trouble. I choose to keep my own driveway gravel instead of asphalt. It was asphalt when I bought the house, but was terribly rippled and ugly. I just don't want to deal with that ever again and would rather go out with my shovel to flatten out the gravel during mud season.

I chose the 4xe because most of my driving is around town. Today was the first time I had to take it out of electric mode in about a month and a half for a longer trip than usual. I chose a Wrangler because I love snow and I sure don't ever want to worry about getting stuck in it.

(Edited because those were CJ's when I was a kid, not TJ's. I'm old!)

 

[AlphaWrangler]

So have you ever run Moab, Rubicon Trail, Colorado trails COMPLETELY SILENT with doors off and windows open. I have.. in my 4xe

i think your windows being down is implied if your doors are off

 

[Ratbert]

So have you ever run Moab, Rubicon Trail, Colorado trails COMPLETELY SILENT with doors off and windows open. I have.. in my 4xe

How much of the Rubicon did you do completely silent? 2 miles? 3?

 

[Ratbert]

I chose a Wrangler because I love snow and I sure don't ever want to worry about getting stuck in it.

I don't understand. You're thinking you'll never worry about getting stuck in snow in your Wrangler?

You're not planning on blazing trails with it? Having fun with it?

 

[F4Flyer]

I do go offroad though not as much as I used to. This is my 3rd Rubicon. I do not care if a Jeep owner offroads or not. If they bought a Jeep, it supports the brand and I'm fine with that. They can mall crawl all they want, and that is fine by me.

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