Toyota’s only have a good reliability rating because of their owners. And the fact that they make white bread everything. They are people who keep cars in garages, religiously take them to dealers for maintenance, baby them and fix stuff when it breaks.
Nissan may make a decent car, but their owners are trash. They finance anyone and so they have these horrible owners who don’t take care of their cars and crash them into anything they can find. So while Nissan may be ok (IMO not great) their owners make things 10000xs worse.
It’s like that person who got their parents or grandparents hand me down 1989 GM product with 200k on it. They hated it. They beat it to shit. Didn’t take care of it, had to fix stuff on it all the time and called all GMs junk. Saying how they will buy a Toyota next time. Well, shocker, their brand new Toyota doesn’t need a whole lot of attention. And they take care of it. Giving the false impression of superior reliability. No shit that a new car from 2020+ is going to be nicer and more reliable than a 20 year old neglected car
FCA makes some trash vehicles. But the wrangler ain’t it, bud. Especially when we are talking about pentastar wranglers. Pentastar itself is a fantastically reliable motor.
GM has made some of the worst back alley abortion vehicles ever. And I consider myself primarily a GM guy (currently have 5) with My wrangler and 2 Toyota’s.
magazines/reviews have had a clear bias towards anything Not American for about 4 decades now. The ratings of the Pontiac Vibe and the Toyota Matrix prove it. The vibe was rated at 4 stars while Matrix was 5. Literally identical cars besides badging.
you can think you made a horrible unreliable vehicle purchase all you want. But fact is You didn’t. You bought one of the most reliable vehicles with THE absolute best resale value for non niche vehicles. Just so happens you can offroad it, take doors and top off it and have fun with it too while not always having to fix it. Which is why I bought mine.
I have to disagree here. We have had 4 Jeeps and 3 Toyotas. All driven over 2 miles a day on dirt roads, deep snow and sub zero temps with some of the saltiest winter roads in the US here in MN. The Toyotas have had only had one repair other then normal wear parts like brakes (we go thru a lot on dirt roads with the new anti skid tech). The one repair was a one hour oilring leak on a output shaft. The oldest Toyota has 320K next over 150K and newer one 80 K. The 4 Jeeps have All needed some major repair more then once. I routinely change transfer and diff oil for example on my Jeeps but the Toyota I admit my maintenance is poor. The one with over 320 K I was looking the other day and I only changed transfer and diff oil once at 150 K! Those things look cheaply made but man they go forever. My current 2019 3.6 Rubi has only 70K but has now been in 3x for rocker cam issues at over $6K total in repairs. I truly love my Jeeps but I'm frustrated American car reliability can't even come close to Toyota in my experience.Toyota’s only have a good reliability rating because of their owners. And the fact that they make white bread everything. They are people who keep cars in garages, religiously take them to dealers for maintenance, baby them and fix stuff when it breaks.
Nissan may make a decent car, but their owners are trash. They finance anyone and so they have these horrible owners who don’t take care of their cars and crash them into anything they can find. So while Nissan may be ok (IMO not great) their owners make things 10000xs worse.
It’s like that person who got their parents or grandparents hand me down 1989 GM product with 200k on it. They hated it. They beat it to shit. Didn’t take care of it, had to fix stuff on it all the time and called all GMs junk. Saying how they will buy a Toyota next time. Well, shocker, their brand new Toyota doesn’t need a whole lot of attention. And they take care of it. Giving the false impression of superior reliability. No shit that a new car from 2020+ is going to be nicer and more reliable than a 20 year old neglected car
FCA makes some trash vehicles. But the wrangler ain’t it, bud. Especially when we are talking about pentastar wranglers. Pentastar itself is a fantastically reliable motor.
GM has made some of the worst back alley abortion vehicles ever. And I consider myself primarily a GM guy (currently have 5) with My wrangler and 2 Toyota’s.
magazines/reviews have had a clear bias towards anything Not American for about 4 decades now. The ratings of the Pontiac Vibe and the Toyota Matrix prove it. The vibe was rated at 4 stars while Matrix was 5. Literally identical cars besides badging.
you can think you made a horrible unreliable vehicle purchase all you want. But fact is You didn’t. You bought one of the most reliable vehicles with THE absolute best resale value for non niche vehicles. Just so happens you can offroad it, take doors and top off it and have fun with it too while not always having to fix it. Which is why I bought mine.
My son worked at a Toyota dealershipI have to disagree here. We have had 4 Jeeps and 3 Toyotas. All driven over 2 miles a day on dirt roads, deep snow and sub zero temps with some of the saltiest winter roads in the US here in MN. The Toyotas have had only had one repair other then normal wear parts like brakes (we go thru a lot on dirt roads with the new anti skid tech). The one repair was a one hour oilring leak on a output shaft. The oldest Toyota has 320K next over 150K and newer one 80 K. The 4 Jeeps have All needed some major repair more then once. I routinely change transfer and diff oil for example on my Jeeps but the Toyota I admit my maintenance is poor. The one with over 320 K I was looking the other day and I only changed transfer and diff oil once at 150 K! Those things look cheaply made but man they go forever. My current 2019 3.6 Rubi has only 70K but has now been in 3x for rocker cam issues at over $6K total in repairs. I truly love my Jeeps but I'm frustrated American car reliability can't even come close to Toyota in my experience.
I got the 3.6 because at the time the 2.0 turbo was new and I didn't trust it. I now wish I would have got the 2.0.