How does the JL's Hard Top removal work

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Doesn't really look like there is a good reason why the 3-piece hard top can't have removable side windows.
There is one reason I can think of. Now is it a "good" enough reason? I don't know. And this is based on what I know of the JK top. I haven't been able to tell yet if it's the same or similar on the JL.

But on the JK, the sides are where the bolts are to secure the top onto the tub. If they were removed then there would be no connection there to the vehicle. Now dies the JL have another location on the rear curve to place a bolt? Don't know. If not and it's similar to the JK, there's a reason.

However, as I understand it currently, the theory is the hard framework of the sliding top is not removeable. So it must be attached in that rear curve location. How it's done can be the difference in the 3-piece allowing for removeable sides.





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Doesn't really look like there is a good reason why the 3-piece hard top can't have removable side windows.
Or at least have the section over the rear seats in a JLU removable. So the remaining portion isn’t sooo bulky.

But yeah, removable sides and rear would be amazing and put to rest all indecision’s I am currently having on which top to get with my JLU.
 

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There is one reason I can think of. Now is it a "good" enough reason? I don't know. And this is based on what I know of the JK top. I haven't been able to tell yet if it's the same or similar on the JL.

But on the JK, the sides are where the bolts are to secure the top onto the tub. If they were removed then there would be no connection there to the vehicle. Now dies the JL have another location on the rear curve to place a bolt? Don't know. If not and it's similar to the JK, there's a reason.

However, as I understand it currently, the theory is the hard framework of the sliding top is not removable. So it must be attached in that rear curve location. How it's done can be the difference in the 3-piece allowing for removable sides.
I heard the same justification before about the sliding top not being removable and I am not seeing it. It appears to be separate and is somehow removable. You can see in the video on page 1 of this thread that the sliding top is secured with bolts at the corners. Its just after Jay removes the window - 0:27.

So sliding top can remove sides and soft top can remove sides, but hard top...
 

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I heard the same justification before about the sliding top not being removable and I am not seeing it. It appears to be separate and is somehow removable. You can see in the video on page 1 of this thread that the sliding top is secured with bolts at the corners. Its just after Jay removes the window - 0:27.

So sliding top can remove sides and soft top can remove sides, but hard top...
I wasn't able to definitively see the bolts. But maybe I am old lol. Are they right there on the little lip that seems to be sticking forward on the portion of the top touching the tub? Right where the guy in the black sweater is touching that area towards the end of the video?

If this is correct, yeah, no good reason the 3-piece top couldn't have this feature. NOW knowing FCA, a reason, not good to the consumer, but likely good for FCA, is they want to sway buyers to this top for a much heftier upcharge than the other hard top. Possibly then later add this feature to the 3-piece top in a future refresh.
 

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I wasn't able to definitively see the bolts. But maybe I am old lol. Are they right there on the little lip that seems to be sticking forward on the portion of the top touching the tub? Right where the guy in the black sweater is touching that area towards the end of the video?

If this is correct, yeah, no good reason the 3-piece top couldn't have this feature. NOW knowing FCA, a reason, not good to the consumer, but likely good for FCA, is they want to sway buyers to this top for a much heftier upcharge than the other hard top. Possibly then later add this feature to the 3-piece top in a future refresh.
Yeah, those are them. The one other thing is that the "frame" of the sliding top is one piece and may secure toward the front on the top in multiple locations, carrying some of the load. In the three-piece maybe the only secure points are the 6 or 8 bolts around the lip of the tub.
 

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Yeah, those are them. The one other thing is that the "frame" of the sliding top is one piece and may secure toward the front on the top in multiple locations, carrying some of the load. In the three-piece maybe the only secure points are the 6 or 8 bolts around the lip of the tub.
Yeah for sure the sliding top will have more locations securing it towards the front. The 3-piece also has a bolt on the b-pillar. I can't imagine one wanting to take off the sliding top, if it is able to be done. That thing will be awkwardly long and heavy to handle, I think.
 

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Yeah for sure the sliding top will have more locations securing it towards the front. The 3-piece also has a bolt on the b-pillar. I can't imagine one wanting to take off the sliding top, if it is able to be done. That thing will be awkwardly long and heavy to handle, I think.
4 bolts back at the rear pillars and 4 across the top at the B pillar should be enough to secure it. They will probably make it available in later models.
 

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Could have something to do with where ever the motor may be and how it is wired to the sliding top preventing us from removing it
 

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Doesn't really look like there is a good reason why the 3-piece hard top can't have removable side windows.
Structural integrity is my guess. Also would be more difficult to make the entire top removable.
 

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Could have something to do with where ever the motor may be and how it is wired to the sliding top preventing us from removing it
True. I just figured they would address the wiring as they do now for the rear wiper. Unplug it. I just keep looking at the brochure and noting how they specifically mention easier to remove 3-piece vs removeable rear panels on the sliding top. I am betting it won't be removeable. Even the brochure shows the b-pillar, seats, and interior of the JL, making one think this is a cutaway shot and even JEEP doesn't have a sliding hard top sitting off a JL for pics.
 

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I wasn't able to definitively see the bolts. But maybe I am old lol. Are they right there on the little lip that seems to be sticking forward on the portion of the top touching the tub? Right where the guy in the black sweater is touching that area towards the end of the video?
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They can also be seen in the images taken at the show in the Granite Sahara thread. There are two bolts/screws securing the window along the tub lip, in addition to the two handles at the top.
 

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Think those could be the bottom mounts for the window panels. The rubber one at the door opening too. The rear one may have a centering peg to mount to?
 

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The sliding top can be removed. It is just too heavy and a pain to be done on any regular basis.
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