Hard top wind noise

[MBurgJL]

I may have missed this, but have any of our beloved forum members posted a video of the ‘fix’ for the windshield?

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[Man-of-methods]

I may have missed this, but have any of our beloved forum members posted a video of the ‘fix’ for the windshield?

No. Not yet.

 

[Gooseisdead]

No. Not yet.

I posted some pics at the start of this thread. I can not swear that it really did much for me. I still seem to get more wind noise at high speeds (over 65) than I remember getting in my 13 JKU.

 

[Man-of-methods]

@Gooseisdead
We appreciate the pics and noticed them. But some of us would like a video of the fix too.

Note to self: search YouTube for this adjustment when I take delivery of my Jeep.

Someone should make a video and put it in the Issues Repair thread instead.

 

[jlroman2]

I may have missed this, but have any of our beloved forum members posted a video of the ‘fix’ for the windshield?

I need this!

 

[jlroman2]

Idk what it is but my friend just dropped me off on his 13 JKU and it feels like it is more significantly sealed. No wind noise compared to my JLU.

 

[Smarrtazz]

Idk what it is but my friend just dropped me off on his 13 JKU and it feels like it is more significantly sealed. No wind noise compared to my JLU.

 

[Pipebndr]

Wind noise issues have been around along time and I happened to be one the unlucky guys that use to fix them for over 40 years. Unfortunately the manufacture doesn’t do the fine tuning for each individual vehicle that we would like and Depend on the dealers to take care of small percentage that have an issue after assembly. So here is a way you can check and adjust for yourself if you can’t make it back to the dealer. I have seen technicians just replace the weather strip, instead of solving the actual cause, misalignment or one side over tightened causing the opposite side to be loose is usually the cause.

This is a slow process, but will identify what needs to be done. Straight body lines doesnt always mean that the seal is correctly aligned. A simple way to identify the area that may be the culprit of the noise or an air leak, is to take a couple pieces of paper and tear them into long strips. The starting point is to check the windshield where the windshield touches the body frame . Unlock the window by removing the four bolts. Pull the windshield away from the frame and lay it on the hood, inspect the weather strip for no damage and confirm it was installed correctly . Take the strips of paper and place them across the sealing area on the frame, on the sides, top and bottom, you will need to tape in place lightly away from the weather strip. What you should have now is the one end of the paper on the inside of the vehicle and the other end on the outside laying across the weather strip all the way around about 10 inches apart. Pay special attention to the windshield corners. Reinstall the windshield on top of the paper strips, tighten windshield to manufactures recommendation. Now take each strip and check the tension by sliding across the weather strip, seeing how hard it slides between th rubber and metal frame, should be under tension but still moveable. Example, one may not be moveable at the top of the windshield frame and at the bottom may be able to pulled out easily, or vice versa. What you are looking for is equal compression all the way around the weather strip. This will give you an idea of what needs to be done. Be careful because being to tight on one side, may be the cause of being loose on the opposite side. Repeat this technique as needed until you get the seal to be equal tension all the way around when it is in the secured position. Adjustments should be done in minimal increments Repeat for the roof top front panels. or for anything that uses a rubber seal. Caution, you want tension but not pinched tight where there is no movement.. Seals need to flex and move under tension. Takes time, but I have been able to decrease and most of the time eliminate wind noise.

 

[$uicide$hift]

Wind noise issues have been around along time and I happened to be one the unlucky guys that use to fix them for over 40 years. Unfortunately the manufacture doesn’t do the fine tuning for each individual vehicle that we would like and Depend on the dealers to take care of small percentage that have an issue after assembly. So here is a way you can check and adjust for yourself if you can’t make it back to the dealer. I have seen technicians just replace the weather strip, instead of solving the actual cause, misalignment or one side over tightened causing the opposite side to be loose is usually the cause.

This is a slow process, but will identify what needs to be done. Straight body lines doesnt always mean that the seal is correctly aligned. A simple way to identify the area that may be the culprit of the noise or an air leak, is to take a couple pieces of paper and tear them into long strips. The starting point is to check the windshield where the windshield touches the body frame . Unlock the window by removing the four bolts. Pull the windshield away from the frame and lay it on the hood, inspect the weather strip for no damage and confirm it was installed correctly . Take the strips of paper and place them across the sealing area on the frame, on the sides, top and bottom, you will need to tape in place lightly away from the weather strip. What you should have now is the one end of the paper on the inside of the vehicle and the other end on the outside laying across the weather strip all the way around about 10 inches apart. Pay special attention to the windshield corners. Reinstall the windshield on top of the paper strips, tighten windshield to manufactures recommendation. Now take each strip and check the tension by sliding across the weather strip, seeing how hard it slides between th rubber and metal frame, should be under tension but still moveable. Example, one may not be moveable at the top of the windshield frame and at the bottom may be able to pulled out easily, or vice versa. What you are looking for is equal compression all the way around the weather strip. This will give you an idea of what needs to be done. Be careful because being to tight on one side, may be the cause of being loose on the opposite side. Repeat this technique as needed until you get the seal to be equal tension all the way around when it is in the secured position. Adjustments should be done in minimal increments Repeat for the roof top front panels. or for anything that uses a rubber seal. Caution, you want tension but not pinched tight where there is no movement.. Seals need to flex and move under tension. Takes time, but I have been able to decrease and most of the time eliminate wind noise.

This makes sense. I was thinking to myself I wonder how many dealers dropped the windshield for demonstration and then sold it but never really put it back together correctly.

At a few dealerships I visited they had the windshield folded down on display. When they sell those display Jeeps I would bet the buyer will have more wind noise than they would expect.

 

[Brad41]

Wind noise issues have been around along time and I happened to be one the unlucky guys that use to fix them for over 40 years. Unfortunately the manufacture doesn’t do the fine tuning for each individual vehicle that we would like and Depend on the dealers to take care of small percentage that have an issue after assembly. So here is a way you can check and adjust for yourself if you can’t make it back to the dealer. I have seen technicians just replace the weather strip, instead of solving the actual cause, misalignment or one side over tightened causing the opposite side to be loose is usually the cause.

This is a slow process, but will identify what needs to be done. Straight body lines doesnt always mean that the seal is correctly aligned. A simple way to identify the area that may be the culprit of the noise or an air leak, is to take a couple pieces of paper and tear them into long strips. The starting point is to check the windshield where the windshield touches the body frame . Unlock the window by removing the four bolts. Pull the windshield away from the frame and lay it on the hood, inspect the weather strip for no damage and confirm it was installed correctly . Take the strips of paper and place them across the sealing area on the frame, on the sides, top and bottom, you will need to tape in place lightly away from the weather strip. What you should have now is the one end of the paper on the inside of the vehicle and the other end on the outside laying across the weather strip all the way around about 10 inches apart. Pay special attention to the windshield corners. Reinstall the windshield on top of the paper strips, tighten windshield to manufactures recommendation. Now take each strip and check the tension by sliding across the weather strip, seeing how hard it slides between th rubber and metal frame, should be under tension but still moveable. Example, one may not be moveable at the top of the windshield frame and at the bottom may be able to pulled out easily, or vice versa. What you are looking for is equal compression all the way around the weather strip. This will give you an idea of what needs to be done. Be careful because being to tight on one side, may be the cause of being loose on the opposite side. Repeat this technique as needed until you get the seal to be equal tension all the way around when it is in the secured position. Adjustments should be done in minimal increments Repeat for the roof top front panels. or for anything that uses a rubber seal. Caution, you want tension but not pinched tight where there is no movement.. Seals need to flex and move under tension. Takes time, but I have been able to decrease and most of the time eliminate wind noise.

Nice write-up. Thank you

 

[Strifehero]

40 miles out and about after picking mine up and was extremely quiet. Far quieter than my JK after having driven it up to trade it in. Far superior thus far (granted a very small time/sample size).

 

[ricku]

I just hope this is not a widespread issue as I patiently (or impatiently) wait for my 2dr JL hardtop Rubicon to arrive.
A little scared though.

 

[Krondor]

:popcorn:

 

[Smarrtazz]

Wind noise issues have been around along time and I happened to be one the unlucky guys that use to fix them for over 40 years. Unfortunately the manufacture doesn’t do the fine tuning for each individual vehicle that we would like and Depend on the dealers to take care of small percentage that have an issue after assembly. So here is a way you can check and adjust for yourself if you can’t make it back to the dealer. I have seen technicians just replace the weather strip, instead of solving the actual cause, misalignment or one side over tightened causing the opposite side to be loose is usually the cause.

This is a slow process, but will identify what needs to be done. Straight body lines doesnt always mean that the seal is correctly aligned. A simple way to identify the area that may be the culprit of the noise or an air leak, is to take a couple pieces of paper and tear them into long strips. The starting point is to check the windshield where the windshield touches the body frame . Unlock the window by removing the four bolts. Pull the windshield away from the frame and lay it on the hood, inspect the weather strip for no damage and confirm it was installed correctly . Take the strips of paper and place them across the sealing area on the frame, on the sides, top and bottom, you will need to tape in place lightly away from the weather strip. What you should have now is the one end of the paper on the inside of the vehicle and the other end on the outside laying across the weather strip all the way around about 10 inches apart. Pay special attention to the windshield corners. Reinstall the windshield on top of the paper strips, tighten windshield to manufactures recommendation. Now take each strip and check the tension by sliding across the weather strip, seeing how hard it slides between th rubber and metal frame, should be under tension but still moveable. Example, one may not be moveable at the top of the windshield frame and at the bottom may be able to pulled out easily, or vice versa. What you are looking for is equal compression all the way around the weather strip. This will give you an idea of what needs to be done. Be careful because being to tight on one side, may be the cause of being loose on the opposite side. Repeat this technique as needed until you get the seal to be equal tension all the way around when it is in the secured position. Adjustments should be done in minimal increments Repeat for the roof top front panels. or for anything that uses a rubber seal. Caution, you want tension but not pinched tight where there is no movement.. Seals need to flex and move under tension. Takes time, but I have been able to decrease and most of the time eliminate wind noise.

Thank you! I’ll try that out whenever my JLUR makes her appearance

 

[marianol]

Mine is extremely quiet. At least compared to my friend's JKU.
I have already taken the freedom panels and put them back on a couple of times (by couple I mean literally 2) and is still nice and quiet.

:popcorn:

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