Fox Performance Elite 2.5 DSC question

[AVGeek99]

I have a a couple questions about the DSC adjusters. The instructions say to turn the knobs counter clockwise all the way until they stop. Then 3 clicks clockwise is the softest setting for both high and low speed adjusters. But if you look at the diagram it's really just 2 clicks clockwise to the softest setting.

Based on the diagram, all the way counter clockwise is the first click. So the softest setting is really just two clicks clockwise from all the way open to the softest setting, at least if you go by the diagram. Does anyone know which is correct? Also what happens if you don't go all the way to the third click? Simple logic would say that the further clockwise you go, the softer it should be. But is this true? Is there any reason you shouldn't go less than the three clicks in from all the way open?

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[Roky]

I have a a couple questions about the DSC adjusters. The instructions say to turn the knobs counter clockwise all the way until they stop. Then 3 clicks clockwise is the softest setting for both high and low speed adjusters. But if you look at the diagram it's really just 2 clicks clockwise to the softest setting.

Based on the diagram, all the way counter clockwise is the first click. So the softest setting is really just two clicks clockwise from all the way open to the softest setting, at least if you go by the diagram. Does anyone know which is correct? Also what happens if you don't go all the way to the third click? Simple logic would say that the further clockwise you go, the softer it should be. But is this true? Is there any reason you shouldn't go less than the three clicks in from all the way open?

I open mine up all the way ( counter clockwise) then turn it clockwise to the first click, I consider that to be 0. To me that’s the softest setting… I can feel it firmer 3 clicks in…. Mine are almost 5 years old so they may be different now…. When mine are all the way open ( counterclockwise) they’re not in an indent I have to turn them a little to get into a notch… Right or wrong I’m not sure but this is how mine work….

So far they’re holding up great, I’m gathering the things I need to rebuild them though, as I know the time is coming….. I’ve still got my RK RRD 2.25s to put on while I’m working on the Fox as it might take me a while, will be my first time rebuilding shocks….

Maybe Mike @AccuTunedJL will chime in to answer your questions….

 

[dstevens]

Full soft is all the way counter clockwise. 3 clicks in is just the recommended starting point for adjustment from Fox.

 

[AccuTunedJL]

The 3 clicks in their diagram is the setting they claim they are shipped as. Weather or not thats accurate is up to you to see. That is not the softest setting.

The softest and firmest description there is just to tell you whats going on with knobs, not related to the specific setting they have shown. All the way counter clockwise is the softest setting. The adjuster is all the way open, allowing for the least amount of oil restriction. Firming up the compression restrict oil flow into the reservoir making the compression firmer.

We would suggest starting at the softest setting, then firm up from there.

I would agree, that Fox should explain a little more on when & why to make changes. Our video below will help with some of those questions:

 

[racerdude90]

Yeah three clicks in is just their recommended setting.

I definitely run mine softer than click 3 for high speed and low speed while on the street.

Also, idk how new yours are but when they are brand spankin new they can be quite stiff. They absolutely soften up over time. I remember when I first got mine I was like “maaaaaan this is the softest setting?” lol. After one solid desert trip they were noticeably softer. At this point they are super soft when set to 0.

Anyway, just a heads up in case you’re like “oh no, what did i buy”

 

[dayusmc]

I open mine up all the way ( counter clockwise) then turn it clockwise to the first click, I consider that to be 0.

This is 100% correct. It has to do with the way parts are made and put together. Dirtbike shocks are the same way...

 

[AVGeek99]

Glad I asked the question!!!

The way the instructions read it seems like you need open them all the way, and then turn them clockwise 3 clicks to the softest setting. This seems very counter intuitve. And of course I interpreted the instructions incorrectly.

I got the shocks from Accutune (thanks Mike!!) in early January. They were an immediate improvement over what I had (BDS Nitro NX2). I got a MC lift the first week of Nov and I wanted the DSCs and to do some of the work myself so the shop recommended the BDSs as a cheap temporary solution. It felt like you could feel every electron on ever molecule of every pebble that makes up a hard surface road. Ok, a bit of exaggeration. I'll just say it did not ride well.

So needless to say that the DSCs were an enormous improvement, even at 3 clicks in. But then my Jeep was at the Dealer for warranty work for the better part of the last month. Now that I have it back it seems much more stiff than stock; I think I got used to driving my wife's Sahara 4xe and a Cherokee loaner, both MUCH softer. I'm going to go adjust them now. I wonder what they'll feel like on my commute in the morning.

Thanks again!!

 

[AccuTunedJL]

Glad I asked the question!!!

The way the instructions read it seems like you need open them all the way, and then turn them clockwise 3 clicks to the softest setting. This seems very counter intuitve. And of course I interpreted the instructions incorrectly.

I got the shocks from Accutune (thanks Mike!!) in early January. They were an immediate improvement over what I had (BDS Nitro NX2). I got a MC lift the first week of Nov and I wanted the DSCs and to do some of the work myself so the shop recommended the BDSs as a cheap temporary solution. It felt like you could feel every electron on ever molecule of every pebble that makes up a hard surface road. Ok, a bit of exaggeration. I'll just say it did not ride well.

So needless to say that the DSCs were an enormous improvement, even at 3 clicks in. But then my Jeep was at the Dealer for warranty work for the better part of the last month. Now that I have it back it seems much more stiff than stock; I think I got used to driving my wife's Sahara 4xe and a Cherokee loaner, both MUCH softer. I'm going to go adjust them now. I wonder what they'll feel like on my commute in the morning.

Thanks again!!

Glad to hear they are a big improvement over what you had. The 2.5 shock bodies tend to ride on the firmer side with more oil and more oil being forced through the DSC adjusters. However, they should handle really nice on the street and offer great off-road performance. However, if have them on the softest setting and still feel they could be softer. Please get in touch with our sales team. We can run some numbers and see if there is room for improvement with the tuning. We are constantly getting better. Save those old shocks unless you are trying to sell them. Would be a good temporary solution if you want to send the shocks back in for a revalve.

 

[AVGeek99]

Glad to hear they are a big improvement over what you had. The 2.5 shock bodies tend to ride on the firmer side with more oil and more oil being forced through the DSC adjusters. However, they should handle really nice on the street and offer great off-road performance. However, if have them on the softest setting and still feel they could be softer. Please get in touch with our sales team. We can run some numbers and see if there is room for improvement with the tuning. We are constantly getting better. Save those old shocks unless you are trying to sell them. Would be a good temporary solution if you want to send the shocks back in for a revalve.

Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I am very happy with the 2.5 DSCs. All I was saying was that after driving something with a much softer ride, the 2024 Jeep Cherokee especially, going back to my Rubicon the shocks seemed quite firm. But they're far from bad.

I did adjust them to the softest settings last night and they were noticeably softer today. Still firm, but not uncomfortable or harsh by any stretch. I was very happy with them they were 3 clicks in. I'm even more happy now that they are on the actual softest setting.

I haven't sold the BDSs and at this point I do plan on keeping them for when I need to send the Fox's in for a revalve. But by then I may look into a different set of cheap shocks. I don't know if I can go back to the BDSs, even for a couple weeks. At least I have a long time before that will be needed.

 

[dayusmc]

Depending on how many miles you have on them, they will break in some and get a hair softener as well. After mine broke in I had to go 1 click stiffer to make them the same as when new. This is normal in all shocks with wear bands, no big deal...

 

[AVGeek99]

I've been working on fixing some shimmy and DW I've had in my steering since I got my lift. Today I finally got everything resolved. All it took was replacement 9/16" track bar bolts. They are just a bit bigger than the stock bolts. Apparently with the stock bolts there is some play in the track bar mounts. With the new bolts all the shimmy and DW are gone.

But funny thing. I think the play in the track bar mounts was causing some additional harshness on sharper bumps. Now that there is no play and no shimmy in the steering it feels like the edge has been taken off the sharp bumps.

While out driving around after the fix today I also took some time to adjust the DSCs. I found some good streets that really test the low speed compression. At first I had both high and low speed all the way open. There was a section of street that had some smooth side to side unevenness.

With the low speed adjuster all the way open this part of the street would cause the Jeep to rock back and forth. I ended up turning it clockwise 4 clicks to firm it up a little. Now there is virtually no back and forth rocking and with no negative side effects. The high speed I left wide open, which takes the edge off bumps very nicely.

I am now VERY happy with the ride quality!!

 

[Mdrums]

The 3 clicks in their diagram is the setting they claim they are shipped as. Weather or not thats accurate is up to you to see. That is not the softest setting.

The softest and firmest description there is just to tell you whats going on with knobs, not related to the specific setting they have shown. All the way counter clockwise is the softest setting. The adjuster is all the way open, allowing for the least amount of oil restriction. Firming up the compression restrict oil flow into the reservoir making the compression firmer.

We would suggest starting at the softest setting, then firm up from there.

I would agree, that Fox should explain a little more on when & why to make changes. Our video below will help with some of those questions:

Could you use these shocks to replace the stock shocks on a 2024 392? I’d like a softer set up for running down gravels and lightly washes out back roads. The stock shocks seem cheap and harsh riding

 

[AccuTunedJL]

Could you use these shocks to replace the stock shocks on a 2024 392? I’d like a softer set up for running down gravels and lightly washes out back roads. The stock shocks seem cheap and harsh riding

sorry for the late reply. Yes you can upgrade your shocks to something like this. Stock springs/lift height are not ideal if you plan on doing faster off-road driving. Factory bump stops are really long preventing that much needed up travel.

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