Diesel or gasser?

[KataraSET]

I’m looking to order my first wrangler. My intentions are to run this into the ground so longevity is my main concern. Would you go for the 3.0 turbo diesel or the 3.6 gasser

bothwith automatic transmission.

this will likely be a rubicon build and to boot will be my dream truck.

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[AcesandEights]

What do you dream of, a diesel or gas?

Other than that, the right answer is gas.

 

[KataraSET]

What do you dream of, a diesel or gas?

Other than that, the right answer is gas.

I dream of the most reliable long lasting engine choice. Lol

 

[Dan M.]

I would go with gas as well. Has been around forever so reliability isn't really an issue. Use the money you save for other Jeep parts.

 

[TX_Ovrlnd]

Reliability is a gamble no matter the platform, have you seen the amount of computers in either platform lol!

Do you have any experience with diesel? Add about $100 to any maintenance required, mind the DEF tank % and refill with quality non-expired DEF, and try to buy diesel at a busy truck stop (they should treat their fuel better). Diesels usually aren't pre-madonnas, but there are some nuances. If you go gasser, there's no change to your current lifestyle.

 

[rcadden]

Don't immediately write off the 2.0L, either. It's used in a ton of vehicles across the Stellantis portfolio, and is the powerhouse that's behind the 4xe platform, which is what's going to receive the most investments and support over the next ~5+ years at Jeep.

My reco would be to try to find a dealership that has a 2.0L and a 3.6L in stock (damn near impossible, I know) and drive them back to back.

That's what I did (coming from a 15 yr old Chevy 4.6L V8 that ran like a champ) and the 2.0L is way more fun. The 3.6L (to me) felt like a smaller version of my old V8 - not exactly what I want powering my new 50K Jeep.

As far as longevity, pretty much any modern engine will easily last 200K+ miles if you mind the maintenance.

 

[Killed by Death]

In Order: 3.6 > 2T (Fart Can) > 3.0

I like the diesel in concept but not one produced by Stellantis!!!

 

[KataraSET]

Don't immediately write off the 2.0L, either. It's used in a ton of vehicles across the Stellantis portfolio, and is the powerhouse that's behind the 4xe platform, which is what's going to receive the most investments and support over the next ~5+ years at Jeep.

My reco would be to try to find a dealership that has a 2.0L and a 3.6L in stock (damn near impossible, I know) and drive them back to back.

That's what I did (coming from a 15 yr old Chevy 4.6L V8 that ran like a champ) and the 2.0L is way more fun. The 3.6L (to me) felt like a smaller version of my old V8 - not exactly what I want powering my new 50K Jeep.

As far as longevity, pretty much any modern engine will easily last 200K+ miles if you mind the maintenance.

I’ve test driven all four engines for the rubicon and the 2.0 is my least favorite. As far as longevity goes I fear a force fed engine. Yes the pep in the step is noticeable but it’s not a feel I require. The 3.6 and 3.0 do just fine for me.

 

[rickinAZ]

I’ve test driven all four engines for the rubicon and the 2.0 is my least favorite. As far as longevity goes I fear a force fed engine. Yes the pep in the step is noticeable but it’s not a feel I require. The 3.6 and 3.0 do just fine for me.

For the record, the diesel is force-fed as well, and likely running higher boost than the 2.0T, but don't let scare you. I bought one of the first 3.6s in 2011 and you would have thought that the world was coming to an end for all of the negativity surrounding that engine.

The Ecodiesel feels like it will pull your house off its foundation.

 

[longfiredragon]

Personally I have had 3 diesels. The new ones in MHO are emission to death, maintenance is more, def fluid etc. Yes they make good power and torque, and they get good milage. However it is somewhat offset by considerably higher fuel cost. Now days longevity isn't really that big of concern. People have gotten more than 300k out of the Penastar V6.

Ford tested their Ecoboost engines to 250k before they ever released them to the public. My current Cummins 5.9 has 260k on it and runs perfect, and the holstat turbocharger has never been touched.

I say stay with gas. V6 or the 2.0 turbo. Don't let the turbo scare you, they have been around for 100 years and many,many have ran well over 250/300k. Personally I think the 2.0 is the best choice for the new JL. I am sure you will be happy with either.

 

[Deleted member 59498]

I wish I had purchased the diesel. They sound cool, good mileage really and lots of power. Also just a novelty in the Wrangler. Was on the wish list for a long time for many Wrangler drivers. If I were ordering I would do it now, the more maintenance isn't really an issue to me.

 

[26 confirmed]

I’ve had 6 jeeps over the years, starting in 1987. The 3.0 ecodiesel is my favorite engine so far. Added the pedal monster and derringer tuner from banks and it’s even better. Thinking about getting a 392 but fuel prices and it’s milage have me doubting that choice. Drive one before you decide. It feels alot different from the gassers.

 

[Cypher]

Drive both, choose which you like most. I have owned a 3.6 and the 3.0 diesel. The Diesel engine and transmission are a perfect match for the JL. I went in planning to order a 4xE or maybe 2.0. after driving all of them it was an easy choice for us. off-road the diesel is even more impressive with how far you can go on a tank of fuel.

All are good options, so drive them and pick which you like most.

 

[ECP]

I have a diesel on order and I'm considering stripping all the emissions stuff out after warranty ends. I understand (but have no experience) that the emissions is what causes problems with the engines because it routes exhaust (soot) back into the engine.

I see your in TX, so that's not an issue. in other states (like CA) removing any emissions stuff is a big no-no

 

[Deleted member 59498]

I have a diesel on order and I'm considering stripping all the emissions stuff out after warranty ends. I understand (but have no experience) that the emissions is what causes problems with the engines because it routes exhaust (soot) back into the engine.

I see your in TX, so that's not an issue. in other states (like CA) removing any emissions stuff is a big no-no

Is the Jeep.com building tool a good idea of the cost for the diesel Rubicon? Looks like 55k with the basics, heated seats, led lights, 3.0, keyless entry and remote start basically. Is yours a Rubicon?

Really considering changing out to the diesel.

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