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I read some speculation that the new BSG 48v battery might cost up to $1500 to replace and have a 5 year or so life span? If that is true - that bites. I hope that is not true? Any savings in gas mileage would probably be eaten up by replacement cost of the battery.
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I read some speculation that the new BSG 48v battery might cost up to $1500 to replace and have a 5 year or so life span? If that is true - that bites. I hope that is not true? Any savings in gas mileage would probably be eaten up by replacement cost of the battery.
I wonder if the BSG 48v battery is in the dealer parts pricing yet?
 

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I’m probably one of the only people who has had their 48V battery replaced. Unfortunately the dealer paperwork doesn’t show any cost since the replacement was fortunately under warranty.
 

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it’s going to be expensive for awhile at least being it’s brand new technology. I’m sure it’s designed to make it through the warranty. After that the owners on their own. These new batteries in general the Prius for example are all very very expensive
 

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I read some speculation that the new BSG 48v battery might cost up to $1500 to replace and have a 5 year or so life span? If that is true - that bites. I hope that is not true? Any savings in gas mileage would probably be eaten up by replacement cost of the battery.
The BSG gimmick does not save any money even before you get to the potential of having to replace the battery. You are spending $1K for the option then needing to use 91+ octane, so any mpg increase it eaten up by the additional cost of the fuel. I think the EPA ratings for the BSG is only 2 mpg better. And if you would have been perfectly happy with (or even *prefered*) a MANual transmission, there's an extra $2K that you are having to spend.
 

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I’m probably one of the only people who has had their 48V battery replaced. Unfortunately the dealer paperwork doesn’t show any cost since the replacement was fortunately under warranty.
Does your paperwork show a part number?
 

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Looks like 48v mild hybrid technology is gaining popularity. Other brands share the technology. A lot of other brands like Mercedes, Audi, Volvo, VW, PSA, Buick, and a few others already have or will have 48v mild hybrid systems. Hopefully the technology is reliable and parts cost are not crazy.

I do wonder how reliable the new technology is? I took a brand new 2.0 JL Sport out for a test drive and the battery light lit up. The JL had 15 miles on the odometer and battery warning light lit up after a few miles. Does not inspire a lot of confidence. Hopefully it was something minor.
 

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I do wonder how reliable the new technology is? I took a brand new 2.0 JL Sport out for a test drive and the battery light lit up. The JL had 15 miles on the odometer and battery warning light lit up after a few miles. Does not inspire a lot of confidence. Hopefully it was something minor.
After the warranty is up, even minor repairs will be ridiculously overpriced at the stealerships...
 

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The BSG gimmick does not save any money even before you get to the potential of having to replace the battery. You are spending $1K for the option then needing to use 91+ octane, so any mpg increase it eaten up by the additional cost of the fuel. I think the EPA ratings for the BSG is only 2 mpg better. And if you would have been perfectly happy with (or even *prefered*) a MANual transmission, there's an extra $2K that you are having to spend.
So are you saying it’s better to get a turbo 2.0 auto in a Rubicon rather than the 3.6 bsg
 

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So are you saying it’s better to get a turbo 2.0 auto in a Rubicon rather than the 3.6 bsg
The 2.0 has e-Torque also.
 

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So are you saying it’s better to get a turbo 2.0 auto in a Rubicon rather than the 3.6 bsg
I'm not sure how you read my comment to mean *that*... :)

The 2.0L has a turbo and it has the BSG. The 3.6L does not have a turbo, nor does it have the BSG. Well, at least the 2018 did not have the BSG for the 3.6L. I have no idea what they are going to do for 2019.

If they had a 3.6L turbo, that might be a game changer and even if you had to have the BSG gimmick, a person *might* be able to talk themselves into it for the added horsepower that a turbo on a 3.6L would give them.

You are going to pay $1K extra for the 2.0L turbo (that has the BSG) as compared to the 3.6L (without the BSG). You will also be forced to have an automatic transmission with the BSG, so that's another $2K. If you are one of those people who don't like a MAN pedal in a car, then the $2K surcharge for the auto is not really an issue for you. What you should look at though is that the 2.0L turbo is supposed to have 91 octane whereas the 3.6L only needs 87 octane. Given the cost difference between those two grades of fuel, even with a couple of mpg better fuel economy on the 2.0L turbo, it is going to cost more to operate. And I'm completely ignoring the possibility that having a turbo is going to add more things to go wrong on the vehicle and increase the potential repair costs. I've had 2 Porsche vehicles over the years with turbos in addition to a BMW and VW with one, and I never had a problem with any of the turbos, but the *potential* does exist, so you should weigh the risks if you plan on keeping it long term.

From a fuel economy standpoint though, the 2.0L just does not make sense to me. Some people use the extra mpg or two to justify to themselves (or their wife) the reason to spend the extra on the 2.0L turbo, but I would not be surprised if they were just wanting it so that maybe in the future, they could increase the boost on the turbo to get more horsepower out of it. Create yourself a spreadsheet and run the numbers and see if you can justify it to yourself. If you want it bad enough, I'm sure you can add some sort of fudge factor that you can use to "justify" going with the 2.0L turbo despite it actually costing more to operate. Even if it didn't cost more to purchase, require 91 octane, and could be had with a manual transmission, I don't think I would go with it just from the standpoint of it not really providing that much for usefulness, but it increases complexity and potential failure points.
 

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No thank you. Thank goodness FCA did not add BSG on 3.6 for 2019. Planning on purchasing late build 2019 3.6

This thing better be covered under the lifetime extended warranty. That’s the only way I would purchase a Jeep with BSG.
 

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No thank you. Thank goodness FCA did not add BSG on 3.6 for 2019. Planning on purchasing late build 2019 3.6

This thing better be covered under the lifetime extended warranty. That’s the only way I would purchase a Jeep with BSG.
Ouch! If the battery goes south after the warranty.. I thought BSG was supposed to be on the 2019 3.6 later in the year?
 
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No thank you. Thank goodness FCA did not add BSG on 3.6 for 2019. Planning on purchasing late build 2019 3.6

This thing better be covered under the lifetime extended warranty. That’s the only way I would purchase a Jeep with BSG.
Jeepsterfreak, that is the sort of thing that "freaks" me out! I am very price conscious when buying things, and not just taking into account the initial price. Having to shell out over $1000 for a replacement battery would make my blood boil. (Probably not an issue for people who don't keep vehicles all that long.) But since generally I hang onto vehicles like grim death and also buy older vehicles, unless battery prices go down drastically in the next 5 or so years, owners or buyers of used Wranglers could be in for some pain when some of these expensive components start failing.
 

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Just for comparison , Any idea how much the secondary battery for the 3.6 ESS without BSG is?
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