Bonding (Aggregate Data) Uconnect with Data providers

[YBABRAT]

THIS INFO IS BASED ON FREEING YOURSELF FROM HOME INTERNET PROVIDERS

I will add more to this about making Uconnect hotspot function without the jeep powered on

Perpose:
To allow 2k video streams and higher
Bypassing carrier hotspot limitations
Fallback for connectivity issues

Benefits:
Cost savings, and makes hotspot data nearly unlimited.

Data Costs:
70GB Hotspot Data @ 150mbps / Unlimited 450mbps Data Plan on Verizon Network ($32/mo)
Uconnect AT&T unlimited hotspot data plan ($25/mo)
Optional 3rd party carrier on T-Mobile or with other data services

NOTE: SOME MAY SAY THEY HAVE UNLIMITED HOTSPOT, BUT THE SPEEDS WILL BE THROTTLED DOWN AFTER A SET DATA LIMIT OR THE DATA SPEED IS NO MORE THAN 40mbps, AND THAT IS WITH A SINGLE $50 PHONE PLAN.

Equipment to implement:
A home WiFi Router (Free... you should have one already)

TP-Link ER605 3 WAN VPN router ($50)
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Integrated-Lightening-Protection-TL-R605/dp/B08QTXNWZ1

2 to 3 Belkin/Linksys RE6300 2.4G / 5G ($10) or an equivalent
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078748T92

At least 3 CAT5 cables

Setup:
It is best to configure LAN and Wireless settings to function well with both 2.4G and 5G for a mixed wireless environment. I prefer to setup on 5G only for my wireless devices. WiFi Printers and smart appliances are usually 2.4G, so keep that in mind. Connect the home router WAN port to any one of the LAN ports of the ER605.

Use the Linksys range extender to connect to your Uconnect hotspot. Once connected, its LAN port can be added to any one of the 3 WAN ports to the ER605. Once completed no further Jeep hotspot connections are required. Data will now be directed to the ER605 for wired connections and your home AP / Router

Use an other Linksys range extender to connect to your phone's WiFi hotspot. Once connected, its LAN port can be added to any one of the 2 remaining WAN ports to the ER605. Make sure you have the two RE6300 devices away from each other.

If adding a 3rd data connection may require another Linksys range extender. Once connected, its LAN port can be added to the last remaining WAN port to the ER605. Make sure you have all three RE6300 devices away from each other.

You can use the 2 remaining LAN ports on the ER605 to connect to a smart TV or any device requiring a LAN connection, or use the LAN connections on your router.

Determining Data Aggregation: Here is a link to give some details in the router's settings.

https://static.tp-link.com/res/down/doc/Aggregate_WAN_Links_Config_Guide.pdf?configurationId=2974

First you need to do speed tests from three sites AT&T, Spectrum and Ookla, per each hotspot connection. You will need to make sure only one WAN connection is done at a time. Remember to label each WAN connection to the port you assign it to. Once the ER605 has been setup for aggregation. You may affect speeds when swapping connections.

Once you have an average transmit and receive for each hotspot connection you can try to balance around 50 50 of the speeds. Most of the time one will be much slower than the other. Example: AT&T 4G LTE is weak in the area being speed tested, and its best speed is 30mbps. Verizon 5G tested 150mbps. Remember hotspot data is throttled by the carrier. So don't expect your phone to push more than advertized hotspot speeds. You will be suprised most don't push above 40mbps on unlimited hotspot plans, unless it is for home data. So what to do... Opps! We are only half way there... data cap. You will have to manage speed and data too. You can manage data by prioritizing the lower speed unlimited hotspot data over the fast but limited hotspot, to keep speed usable yet lowering the amount of data used on the faster hotspot. So you will need to set a limit on each WAN to be 40mbps on both and place a little more priority with the slower hotspot. If you can maintain 80mbps its enough but there will be times you may see even slower speeds. If data cap is not an issue then adding the 40mbps data to the 150mbps will boost for sharing data.

Next time I'll be adding a mod to operate Uconnect hotspot without jeep powered on.

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[Ratbert]

There's no packet-level bonding, just load balancing, right? That is, a single stream (video, download, etc) is limited to one WAN and not the combined total.

I'm fortunate in our new place. Gig fiber is really awesome (and cheap compared to our Internet in CO).

 

[YBABRAT]

There's no packet-level bonding, just load balancing, right? That is, a single stream (video, download, etc) is limited to one WAN and not the combined total.

I'm fortunate in our new place. Gig fiber is really awesome (and cheap compared to our Internet in CO).

The ER605 does bonding and aggregate balancing, but no packet level bonding. So streaming at a bonded speed can only be done using PTP applications.

 

[YBABRAT]

I did further research and found T-Mobile has a $20 plan for 120GB data called Home Internet Backup. It comes with everything needed even though it is called a plan. It is on a separate page on the home internet plans. It is not portable, as it is location locked by tower triangulation. You do get free Paramount + and Roku subscriptions with the plan.

Also my ER605 has a 4th WAN on USB. Why not go and add Sprint to the mix as well? HA!

With all that I basically have redundancy fallover internet for home and can be portable, with PTP bonding between all WAN connections.

Outside of upgrading some hardware, monthly costs are equal to my previous home internet setup with phone plan.

The RE605 I got needed firmware updates. It's slow for being buisness class, but has a lot more under the hood than commercial based routers. Reminds me of them old Netgear 4 port switches and 5 port routers, but not blue. HA!

 

[Pape]

Let see, you plan on adding your jl Hotspot as a wan source to your home setup?
Just so you are aware, 2.4 ghz only have 3 usable frequency 1, 6 and 11, keep it in mind if the are overlapping on each other range. Also keep in mind the width of your channel configuration.
Personally i would build myself a custom router using off the shelf pc hardware instead.

 

[YBABRAT]

Let see, you plan on adding your jl Hotspot as a wan source to your home setup?
Just so you are aware, 2.4 ghz only have 3 usable frequency 1, 6 and 11, keep it in mind if the are overlapping on each other range. Also keep in mind the width of your channel configuration.
Personally i would build myself a custom router using off the shelf pc hardware instead.

I am aware but in the mountains I'm not so congested as city folk.

Verizon smart phone data will switch between T-mobile through the ER605. Jeep AT&T hotspot will be a secondary aggregate between the two main data sources in a PTP streaming vpn server. Home will have T- Mobile 120GB plan and away will have phone and Jeep hotspot.

 

[Terrymo]

Ok probably a dumb question…use small words and speak slowly I am way out of my league here.
How does the cost and speeds compare to Starlink mini with the Roam plan?

 

[Pape]

I am aware but in the mountains I'm not so congested as city folk.

Verizon smart phone data will switch between T-mobile through the ER605. Jeep AT&T hotspot will be a secondary aggregate between the two main data sources in a PTP streaming vpn server. Home will have T- Mobile 120GB plan and away will have phone and Jeep hotspot.

Ptp is in point to point or you are missing a p as in pptp as the tech used for the vpn ?

 

[YBABRAT]

Ok probably a dumb question…use small words and speak slowly I am way out of my league here.
How does the cost and speeds compare to Starlink mini with the Roam plan?

Starlink is almost double the price that equals my my phone's hotspot data. Having Jeep hotspot allows for a lot more data for a good price. Though if you are out where there is no service for AT&T and your phone, then Starlink is your only option for data service.

My 3 plans total $65. Total data with hotspot is 210GB and AT&T unlimited at half the speeds of the other two plans.

Starlink ROAM - 50GB is $50. Starlink RESIDENTIAL LITE is $80

 

[YBABRAT]

Ptp is in point to point or you are missing a p as in pptp as the tech used for the vpn ?

Most all PTP streaming apps use vpn tunneling as far as I know. Just have to setup the vpn within router. Though I would have to check the terminology of this router, as some settings have different naming conventions to what seems standard. Like port forwarding is not labeled as such.

 

[Terrymo]

Starlink is almost double the price that equals my my phone's hotspot data. Having Jeep hotspot allows for a lot more data for a good price. Though if you are out where there is no service for AT&T and your phone, then Starlink is your only option for data service.

My 3 plans total $65. Total data with hotspot is 210GB and AT&T unlimited at half the speeds of the other two plans.

Starlink ROAM - 50GB is $50. Starlink RESIDENTIAL LITE is $80

Ok thanks for the summary. It would also need to be for areas outside of cell service. I appreciate it.

 

[Pape]

ok so this stand for Point to point. So you wish for your router to be the endpoint for the PTP connectivity ?

 

[YBABRAT]

ok so this stand for Point to point. So you wish for your router to be the endpoint for the PTP connectivity ?

Well its more to do with aggregation of data between the 3 data lines. PTP streaming servers are setup to allow multi connections and distributed packets. The PTP streaming applications will put the packets together as one data file to read from and decode.

Some IPTV servers may have PTP streaming, but with most providers like Netflix send only a single stream to an IP.

Some may want to create a way to have more reliable connectivity with muliple budget plans, like I have. With careful researching it can be at a lower cost and provide fast 150mbps speeds, plus more hotspot data than most single plan options. Even if you have a family plan its cost is way over what I have done with 3 carriers. Plus your limited by dead spots with your single carrier.

I assume my T-Mobile home backup plan will have around 400mbps. But it is only at 120GB/Mo. My US Mobile plan only gives around 150mbps in hotspot... but I am able to get 400mbps average on my phone use only. AT&T being the weakest here at my location gives about 50mbps, where I park in front of my house. I can throttle down the faster connections to help load balance with aggregation on all three if I am PTP streaming. IPTV will be on the faster 2 providers with data limits set to keep one from being used too much. Kind of like switch mode but not so automatic.

Another thing to ponder is to bypass mobile hotspot limitations on a phone, you can if your phone or tablet has the capability, use USB C HML to HDMI cable and use the phone or tablet as a media steaming box to your tv.

 

[Ratbert]

AT&T being the weakest here at my location gives about 50mbps, where I park in front of my house.

Does that imply that some portion of your Jeep is on 24/7 to do that proxying?

 

[Wabujitsu]

Well its more to do with aggregation of data between the 3 data lines. PTP streaming servers are setup to allow multi connections and distributed packets. The PTP streaming applications will put the packets together as one data file to read from and decode.

Some IPTV servers may have PTP streaming, but with most providers like Netflix send only a single stream to an IP.

Some may want to create a way to have more reliable connectivity with muliple budget plans, like I have. With careful researching it can be at a lower cost and provide fast 150mbps speeds, plus more hotspot data than most single plan options. Even if you have a family plan its cost is way over what I have done with 3 carriers. Plus your limited by dead spots with your single carrier.

I assume my T-Mobile home backup plan will have around 400mbps. But it is only at 120GB/Mo. My US Mobile plan only gives around 150mbps in hotspot... but I am able to get 400mbps average on my phone use only. AT&T being the weakest here at my location gives about 50mbps, where I park in front of my house. I can throttle down the faster connections to help load balance with aggregation on all three if I am PTP streaming. IPTV will be on the faster 2 providers with data limits set to keep one from being used too much. Kind of like switch mode but not so automatic.

Another thing to ponder is to bypass mobile hotspot limitations on a phone, you can if your phone or tablet has the capability, use USB C HML to HDMI cable and use the phone or tablet as a media steaming box to your tv.

Or just use AirPlay, for instance.

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