Autopark not working properly

[stumblinhorse]

You've got to look at the bigger picture. Lots of people drive these things all over the world.

How would you feel if your wife took the Jeep to the store with your screaming kids in the back seat. She's distracted and in a bad mood from the kids screaming. She shuts off the engine, but forgets to put it in park before she gets out to unload the kids. She gets little Susie out, sets her down and walks around the front to get Tommy out on the other side.

Well, during those 15 seconds, little Susie walked behind the Jeep that was very slowly rolling backwards. She was pinned between the back bumper and a light pole and crushed to death....

Never would have happened with this safety feature.

I'll never understand people who bemoan things like this *because it would never benefit THEM*.

If you want to drive a metal deathtrap, then don't buy a vehicle made with modern engineering built into it.

How would you feel if your wife took the Jeep to the store with the kids screaming and didn’t notice the door was ajar and was she wasn’t buckled up yet and was pulling out into traffic and opened the door to get it all the way closed and the Jeep jammed itself into park and she was t-boned and killed your family and the family that was in the other car…

I’ll never understand people who think that one size fits all. There are people that shouldn’t drive cars, be parents, or even cross the street. That doesn’t mean you can ban all cars or sterilize all people or ban crossing the street…

I drive a metal death trap, something that should not have been made, a high center of gravity, big tire lifted with bad brakes with 470hp…. So I assume my responsibility to ensure I operate it safely…. If I don’t… that’s on me…

No beef with you @diesel_dave, I am good with mandated rear camera’s, abs, Esc etc. But auto park is dangerous. Just like not being able to unlock doors when a battery is dead. It is bad engineering.

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[diesel_dave]

How would you feel if your wife took the Jeep to the store with the kids screaming and didn’t notice the door was ajar and was she wasn’t buckled up yet and was pulling out into traffic and opened the door to get it all the way closed and the Jeep jammed itself into park and she was t-boned and killed your family and the family that was in the other car…

I’ll never understand people who think that one size fits all. There are people that shouldn’t drive cars, be parents, or even cross the street. That doesn’t mean you can ban all cars or sterilize all people or ban crossing the street…

I drive a metal death trap, something that should not have been made, a high center of gravity, big tire lifted with bad brakes with 470hp…. So I assume my responsibility to ensure I operate it safely…. If I don’t… that’s on me…

No beef with you @diesel_dave, I am good with mandated rear camera’s, abs, Esc etc. But auto park is dangerous. Just like not being able to unlock doors when a battery is dead. It is bad engineering.

Well, I hate to be pedantic but your scenario would not have happened because it would have autoparked due to the door being ajar in the first place. It also wouldn't have happened because it doesn't engage over 1.2 mph which is like slower than a slow walking pace. I'm sure she would have pulled into traffic faster than 1.2 mph...

Features like this have a great potential to save someone from being injured or killed and have an extremely low chance of causing harm(at worst a minor annoyance).

Hell, I've never had it kick in other than to see how it works because why the hell would I be opening my door, with my seatbelt unbuckled, while rolling below 1.2 mph unless I was a mailman or something? If you are someone that does do that for whatever reason, just shift to park, back to drive to reset it, then keep doing whatever you were doing and it wont do it again during that key cycle.

Like I said, minor inconvenience that only takes 5 seconds to overcome on a feature that should only ever be engaging in rare circumstances. Is that 5 second long, rare inconvenience just too much hassle to be worth doing away with something that can save people from being maimed or killed?

I don't think someone else being killed by your decision to drive something unsafe is much going to care whether or not you accepted that responsibility because.. they will be dead. You aren't the only one driving around out there and other people can suffer from your choices. Just keep that in mind.

 

[Byrds8]

How about people start relying on the technology between their damn ears rather than 1s and 0s and electrical impulses running through their vehicle that cannot think for itself. All too often people seem to want technology or the government to save them from themselves. You cannot regulate out death. It happens. Like I have told my children, vehicles are 3-5K Lb ballistic weapons. All the tech in the world isn't going to stop accidents from happening. But paying more attention to what you are doing will go a long way.

 

[Opus]

How about people start relying on the technology between their damn ears rather than 1s and 0s and electrical impulses running through their vehicle that cannot think for itself. All too often people seem to want technology or the government to save them from themselves. You cannot regulate out death. It happens. Like I have told my children, vehicles are 3-5K Lb ballistic weapons. All the tech in the world isn't going to stop accidents from happening. But paying more attention to what you are doing will go a long way.

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