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Please see my alignment specs below. Is this all within acceptable parameters? TIA!

JLUR, 2.5” lift, 35x12.50R17 hybrid MTs, 2” wheel spacers, driver weight is approximately 200lbs.

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what kind of expert would you prefer to comment on it? I myself, am an expert on collectible butterknives.
in my expert opinion, your alignment looks all fcked up.
I am interested in the opinions of folks who are smart about modified JLU alignment, as the mods affect the recommended final numbers.
 

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for one thing there is no real easy way to adjust the camber and odd it would change that much between before and after readings.and your caster is higher than i like but some like high caster..I like closer to 5° your toe is good and your thrust angle is within specs. in reality the left camber is still in spec as spec is -0.75° - +0.25° on both sides. me personally I would lower the caser to 5°-6° range
 
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I was going to suggest that the left side ball joints were worn out until I saw the rear camber was also out of whack on the same side as well as the toe. I don't know what would cause the rear to be out of spec other than an impact hard enough to bend something.

Caster ideally would be closer to 6 degrees, but if you don't have any steering or front driveshaft issues I wouldn't worry about it.
 

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this drives no hands 75mph all day long..

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this drives no hands 75mph all day long..

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Thanks Jeff. Am I correct to assume, with me running two-inch wheel spacers that increase the scrub radius, that my final numbers should be different from what they would be without spacers?
 

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Thanks Jeff. Am I correct to assume, with me running two-inch wheel spacers that increase the scrub radius, that my final numbers should be different from what they would be without spacers?
the sheet above is with 1" spacers and I don't see how that would cause either camber or caster to change. I however am not an expert by any stretch, well other than in drinking beer...I have had a lot alignment sheets over the years and have had the same results with wheel spacers and say AEV wheels in otherwords the numbers were the same even tho the ultimate backspacing was different. same with narrrow tires and wider tires on the same rig. you could pull the spacers and go back just to see what the difference is.
 
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Did your lift come with adjustable or at least longer control arms? Are you still using the stock ball joints?
 

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The caster is pretty high as others have noted. That high will make the steering sluggish. I prefer 6-6.5⁰. If you have adjustable lower control arms I'd shorten them by 2 full turns per side and see if you feel it drives better. No need to spend money on another alignment. If you don't like it just put it back as it was.
 
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Did your lift come with adjustable or at least longer control arms? Are you still using the stock ball joints?
No and yes. The ball joints were checked out good a week prior.
 

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The caster is pretty high as others have noted. That high will make the steering sluggish. I prefer 6-6.5⁰. If you have adjustable lower control arms I'd shorten them by 2 full turns per side and see if you feel it drives better. No need to spend money on another alignment. If you don't like it just put it back as it was.
Thanks Zach. Oddly, the steering is VERY responsive, very quick.
 
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Well if you're happy with the way it drives and you don't have any vibration issues I'd leave it alone then.
It’s hard to tell on these country roads around here if I have vibration or not. I did get it on the interstate yesterday up to 75 MPH. It was smooth as butter.

I am going to stop by the shop and ask the owner why the final numbers are what they are. I’m not just concerned about my perceived feel; I’m also concerned with longevity of the tires. Thanks for your input!
 

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It’s hard to tell on these country roads around here if I have vibration or not. I did get it on the interstate yesterday up to 75 MPH. It was smooth as butter.

I am going to stop by the shop and ask the owner why the final numbers are what they are. I’m not just concerned about my perceived feel; I’m also concerned with longevity of the tires. Thanks for your input!
Assuming you have a FAD the only time you'd have vibration issues would be in 4wd. If you aren't wheeling at high speeds it will never be an issue.
 
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Assuming you have a FAD the only time you'd have vibration issues would be in 4wd. If you aren't wheeling at high speeds it will never be an issue.
Thanks; I will test it out in high.
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