392 Winch Size

[Brew211]

Curious what everyone is using for the winch weight with the 392, 10k or 12k? I'm asking for those that will use their winch and I know the typical sizing is 1.5x vehicle weight, but my feeling is with gear and accessories its too close to the 10K size. Thoughts?

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[BDinTX]

Get the 10k y’all ain’t special!

Just kidding
I think you’re only ~50 lbs heavier than the diesel and I went with a 10k. My GVWR is 6100 lbs, I’d expect you’re the same. If you go over that by 1000 lbs the 1.5x weight is still barely over 10k.

Other considerations might be line speed. Don’t know specifics but on the Zeon/Platinum models the 12k is slower reeling it in.

I know at least one 392 owner went with a 12k because that is what was available.

Hopefully it’s ok for me to post in here…

 

[Brew211]

That made me laugh @BDinTX. But seriously, you're not allowed.

I didn't realize the Diesel was that close in weight. The 10k is perfect for my 3.6l, I just imagine it would be too close for the added weight of the v8. Thanks for your post.

 

[BDinTX]

I was on the fence too and am curious what the consensus will be. I’m certainly no expert.

 

[GtX]

You can always increase the force with a pulley or two.

 

[Brew211]

You can always increase the force with a pulley or two.

Agreed, only if you have enough line. I've found that wheeling out here in AZ I tend to use more line than back east, less trees and objects to tie to.

 

[GtX]

Agreed, only if you have enough line. I've found that wheeling out here in AZ I tend to use more line than back east, less trees and objects to tie to.

A winch line extension sounds like a good piece of gear out there.

 

[Brew211]

You know what...... you are 100% right! Shame on me, I've never used one and assuming it would work through a pulley, that's a great idea.

 

[GtX]

You know what...... you are 100% right! Shame on me, I've never used one and assuming it would work through a pulley, that's a great idea.

I keep some straps as extensions or to anchor if needed.

But, I watched this YouTube video yesterday and they used winch line extensions and a pair of x-locks to belay a vehicle without breaks down a hill by hand.




I now need a winch line extension and a couple x-locks.

 

[kkarnage]

When I was building out my 2020 JLUR 3.6, I went for a 12K, because that’s all I could source at the time. Now with my 2022 XR 392 I ended up going with a 10K, because, well, no one had stock of the 12K.

In the end, I will say that getting the 10K mounted was orders of magnitude easier than the 12K was. That 12K is sooooo big that on something like an AEV bumper, it becomes all but impossible to get it attached. There just isn’t enough space to get tools into the places you need to get them into. On the 2020, getting the 12K in required some creative angle grinder work and touch up paint.

I’m sure the 10K is plenty for most of us, even those of us who tow off-road trailers.

 

[RugbyRef]

I went with a 12K on mine...no regrets.

 

[Bzinsky]

I was on the fence too and am curious what the consensus will be. I’m certainly no expert.

First time wrangler owner and first time off roader. Got stuck twice so far.

Have a 4xe which is about the same weight as 392.

I had a 4k lb come along to pull me out. It did absolutely nothing. Wasn’t even remotely close to pulling me anywhere and my tires were only buried in about 8” in mud.

If I end up getting a winch, it will be strong AF and the cable will be long AF. Def not relying on a snatch block because that halved the distance.

I had a 20ft rope and a 5ft come along. Sitting at home that sounds like plenty for most scenarios, when in reality its just a little bit longer than a pickup truck and is almost worthless, even in the woods with trees all over the place.

If you’re going offroading solo, def go 12k lbs. i’d also want synthetic for weight savings in a 392. 100lbs over the front axle will (ballpark) take 30lbs off the rear axle and add 130 to the front because of the lever effect. Which will just compound the 392’s front biased weight distribution. (Although stock it’s 54/46 which isn’t bad) Any other jeep who cares, but you don’t buy a 392 if you don’t care about on-road performance.

 

[Zandcwhite]

You know what...... you are 100% right! Shame on me, I've never used one and assuming it would work through a pulley, that's a great idea.

The line extension works through a pulley, until you get to the point it is connected to the winch line. Might mean some re-rigging at that point if you're still stuck, but it is still a better option than the winch ALWAYS being heavier and slower in my opinion.

 

[~Blue392~]

I bought a 12k for two reasons. First was that it was an ok deal. Not a great deal but still a deal. The second…and some will probably say I was over thinking it…was I saw that when you put the 8k, 10k and 12k side by side in a test the 12k drew less amperage with an 8k load than the 8k or 10k winches. so, less stress on the alternator or battery.

 

[Zandcwhite]

I bought a 12k for two reasons. First was that it was an ok deal. Not a great deal but still a deal. The second…and some will probably say I was over thinking it…was I saw that when you put the 8k, 10k and 12k side by side in a test the 12k drew less amperage with an 8k load than the 8k or 10k winches. so, less stress on the alternator or battery.

Across most winch model lines, they use the same motor and just gear it lower for the higher capacity. Of course it will draw less current that way, but you can accomplish the same thing with a snatch block and a double line pull. The difference being you aren't stuck carrying that extra weight thousands of miles, and you aren't stuck with a slow winch when under lighter loads. A 25k will likely draw even less amperage, but it's still over kill in my opinion.

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