23JLR vs 24JLW

[Allen0jason]

The consensus when people ask if they should get a Rubicon or not has always been to get the Rubicon.

Normally yes you get the Rubicon, but the difference between a 23 Rubicon and a 24 Willys is nearly paper thin. That's why this threat is here it is so close.

Having said that I have come to the discovery that they are still only doing 2.0 in the 4 XE. They are not putting 2.0 in anything else which to an extent forces my hand a bit

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[DWS44]

IF you like Yellow and aren't likely to find yourself jonesing for Anvil and IF the extra $5K isn't a burden on the wallet, then there is something to be said for immediate availability vs. waiting on an order and any possible delays that may come down the line for whatever you decide to order.

 

[Spank]

Normally yes you get the Rubicon, but the difference between a 23 Rubicon and a 24 Willys is nearly paper thin. That's why this threat is here it is so close.

Not really. Paper thin would be not getting the rock rails or something as insignificant between the two. You're literally missing half the features the Rubicon has.

If you're gonna seriously build this thing down the road and replace axles, t-cases, swaybars and whatnot, you're still better off with a minimally-equipped Sport. Seems silly to get only some of the Rubicon goodies, then upgrade the other half to meet that factory level instead of just going aftermarket all the way and building something superior to a Rubicon as a whole.

 

[Heimkehr]

...[Toledo is] still only doing 2.0 in the 4xe. They are not putting 2.0 in anything else...

That issue gets recurring mention in a variety of recent threads on this site.

It's understood that the engine restrictions are, at least in part, a collateral effect of CARB regulations in those states that have adopted them.

What'd be interesting to know is if, or to what extent, these restrictions have on the valuations of used Jeeps that have a powertrain combination that can't currently be ordered. Said differently, if said restrictions continue for a while, will someone who is selling their used Jeep with a popular engine/trim combination (that can't be ordered new) be able to list it for a price that is X dollars higher because of these current conditions?

 

[Old Jeeper]

Here's my dilemma, looking at a two-door 2.0 hardtop automatic for 37-in daily driver / weekend warrior. The way I understand it both platforms that I'm looking at are virtually the same minus the front Locker and before to one transfer case on the Rubicon. Both of them being brand new and having access to full warranty benefits. Will be used for local Wheeling along with road trips to a bunch of other parts in the US including Utah and Tennessee.

Which direction would you go.

The Rubicon was designed and built to be King of the Rocks, it was in '03 and still is.

So if you are not hanging out in Moab like a cheap suit, or got plans for the Rubicon trail etc then go for the JLW and save some coin...NOTHING wrong with the JLW!

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