How much does the 4xe battery replacement cost?
Today's cost at a dealer is 12.5k for a Pacifica which uses the same system. 10 years from now when there are refurbished packs? Who knows but probably closer to Prius replacement cost which is 2-5k today.
As an investor in solar and battery tech for the past 30yrs myself, you are mistaken. Citations? Yes research is ongoing, but no magical solution is at hand. It will be a slow evolution, not a 15yr revolution. The battery tech we have now is OLD but it works in the required capable/cost/benefit/practicality sense and is what almost all EVs will be using for the mandated govt timelines.
Hmm. Are you are stating the US govt generating capacity numbers are wrong? Or, are you are stating that EVs can charge other EVs to alleviate any need to vastly expand the on-demand electrical capacity? That would be perpetual charging operation without power generation. SERIOUSLY????
$12.5k is alot of money for battery replacement. Your assuming there might be refurbished packs. What if there isn't? Or what if technology advances into something else like combustion hydrogen engines and nobody cares about electric anymore. Or electric technology advances to the point where the batteries are totally different and much smaller and the current 4xe set up is a dinosaur not even able to replace? Too many variables in this early technology. I cam easily see the the money that you save gets wiped out down the road by battery replacement. Or vehicle replacement trade depreciation if you keep it long enough and trade up to the latest and greatest whatever.
The battery will be significantly functional for at least 10+yrs before the electric-only range starts dropping and eventuall get to an impractical (5-10 miles) elec-only range. It will still work and provide the hp and tq, though. Projection guesstibased on a friend's 9yr old 400,000 mile Tesla S who has barely over half the original range on a good day.
EVs are only useful for city dwellers. I live in the greater LA area and here an EV makes more sense. LA is absolutely massive and there is charging everywhere. Even then.... my co-worker was asking for camping spots near the city. I gave him about 5 where you can always find a site. He came back to me and said neither work. Because him and his friend both have Tesla model Y and need sites with hook ups. lol...
. He also told me a story they went on a roadtrip to Sedona or something like that, and how they had to make half hour stops to charge. Mentioned the charging spots were "fun". EV's are a hassle for most people.
Yeah. I'm not a city dweller and all those stops they had to do definitely doesn't sound fun. He'll I hate stopping for gas when I have to and that's fast. Lol.EVs are only useful for city dwellers. I live in the greater LA area and here an EV makes more sense. LA is absolutely massive and there is charging everywhere. Even then.... my co-worker was asking for camping spots near the city. I gave him about 5 where you can always find a site. He came back to me and said neither work. Because him and his friend both have Tesla model Y and need sites with hook ups. lol...
Not possible, the manufacturer has to support parts for a vehicle for a long time as mandated by the government. The system also can be made to use different battery tech as stellantis is already using multiple suppliers of different techs for their hybrids. On top of that they also are planning on using this system in all their vehicles starting in 2025 so through at least 2030 this system isn't going anywhere and most likely well beyond. By that point there will be millions of these on the road and refurbs will be available.
I can see it being supported by 2030. But after that who knows. I guess I'm thinking in terms of someone who buys a vehicle and keeps it for 30 years.
It's easy to figure out how much it will save you, how many miles do you drive a day, what's your kw/h cost, and what's your gallon of gas cost?
Gas is around $3.60 a gallon and kw/h is like 18 cents give or take. I'll have to double check.
It's honestly all over the place. It depends. But if I average it comes out to about 25 miles a day.
I always like to assume worst case on these. So assuming you drive 50 miles a day, (20 there, 20 back, 10 around town) you can basically subtract 21 miles from that at a cost of 14kwh x .18 cents or 2.52. then the remaining 29 miles at about 20 mpg for another 5.22 or so in gas and a total of 7.74. on gas alone you are at 9 dollars, so on a 50 mile drive you saved 1.25 for that day or 457 bucks a year.
