Video: They say the JL Rubicon can fit 35's without a lift, this video says otherwise

[DaveNH]

Listen again. He says "either way you want to do it."

Yeah, that's my point. If you NEEDED a lift to fit 35s, it wouldn't be "either way you want to do it."

But if he says 35s fit OR a lift, to me, sounds like a qualifier.

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[Zoobie]

I think the summary is that if you just want the esthetics of bigger tires, then you don't need a lift. For 95% of the Jeeps on the road, that's a HUGE value prop that they can get the look without having to put the money and complexity into lifting anymore.

For any offroader who will be disconnecting swaybars and doing full flex, the video clearly shows that you still need a lift.

For me, I plan to put 37's on my JL... and the good news is that I don't have to put as big of a lift on (I was thinking 3.5"??). That allows me to gain clearance, yet still maintain a low center of gravity for offcamber.

 

[Indio]

Not arguing either but I wholeheartedly disagree with you on this. On a vehicle designed to disconnect a sway bar with the simple push of a button, saying a certain action, 35s fits (or works) should pertain to ALL circumstances. If it doesn't, it's misleading. Now is misleading a huge problem, maybe not. BUT if someone does throw 35s on and then has damage they try and get covered under warranty, how does that play out? Not covered because not factory? Argue covered because FCA said it's fine? I don't know but it will be interesting to see.

Not directing this at you personally bilash31, but this is what I was talking about in an earlier post, regarding Jeep possibly ruing the day they said a Rubi can handle 35 inch tires. Because they might have owners showing up at dealers complaining and wanting new fenders and stuff, if technically the fenders got hit/scuffed by the 35 inch tires. People that I off-road with wouldn't care much on their rigs - my tires rub the front flares on my CJ. But some of these guys buying 50 grand Rubis will be showing up at the dealership bitching about their fenders - it could be a customer service pain in the *ss for Jeep, lol.

 

[bilash31]

Not directing this at you personally bilash31, but this is what I was talking about in an earlier post, it could be a customer service pain in the *ss for Jeep, lol.

Sorry mud have missed your post. Sometimes these threads get posts so fast I can't keep up. But yes I absolutely agree with you.

 

[TTEChris]

I think the summary is that if you just want the esthetics of bigger tires, then you don't need a lift. For 95% of the Jeeps on the road, that's a HUGE value prop that they can get the look without having to put the money and complexity into lifting anymore.

For any offroader who will be disconnecting swaybars and doing full flex, the video clearly shows that you still need a lift.

For me, I plan to put 37's on my JL... and the good news is that I don't have to put as big of a lift on (I was thinking 3.5"??). That allows me to gain clearance, yet still maintain a low center of gravity for offcamber.

I think a 2-3" lift(With longer shocks to maintain or increase suspension travel) with 2" bumpstops should do the trick with 37's and proper wheel backspacing.

 

[bilash31]

Yeah, that's my point. If you NEEDED a lift to fit 35s, it wouldn't be "either way you want to do it. But if he says 35s fit OR a lift, to me, sounds like a qualifier.

Are you new to Jeep/off-roading? I ask, not to be rude or argue, just to understand your perspective and knowledge on the subject. What some of us are arguing ( me in my 20 so years of wheeling) is that you will need a lift to retain full use/ability in all situations. I look at that original video posted and can see running 35s disconnected off road will cause rubbing. That in my opinion says you need a lift with 35s-opposite what Mark says.

As far as the or statement, I guess I hear that differently than you. I hear him saying 35s fit straight away (then his brain goes oh sh*t if I say that we lose lots of money on lift kit purchases) and adds awkwardly or a lift. By ending with "either way" just reiterates that Mark/FCA say 35s fit without a lift. As can be seen in my other posts and this one, I don't see that as accurate.

 

[DaveNH]

What some of us are arguing ( me in my 20 so years of wheeling) is that you will need a lift to retain full use/ability in all situations.

Yes, I know.

Do you understand what I mean by "qualifier"?

 

[NFRs2000NYC]

Guys, both sets of people can be right. Looking at the OP video, it is quite clear that 35s on stock wheels will NOT work/fit (my definition of fit, which is fully traveled suspension+wheel turned all the way)...however, it you analyze the wheel well, you will notice that it has more room towards the center....so on a lower offset wheel you may be able to buy that extra little bit to clear a 35" tire. On a stock wheel, a 35 will not fit.

 

[Jeeptimus Prime]

He posted another set of pics with him flexing no problem, no lift, no rub....-12 offset! We’re good to go. I’m adding 2” lift anyway but just wanted to make sure that people realize that yes you can fit 35s...

Nice but still not at full articulation. If you go 35s on a stocker then it appears bump stops are required or 1" body lift OR flat fenders.

I am waiting patiently to hear more RL JL in the wild and I was always skeptical of 35s on stock for 4x4ing but pavement pounding should be fine.

 

[jeppesen.io]

Unless I'm missing something, this seems simple.

35"s work just fine around town
35"s work just fine with sway bar connected

But, 35"s will rub with sway bar disconnected

Most people will be fine with 35"s, but some will need to lift/cut/etc

 

[bilash31]

Yes, I know.

Do you understand what I mean by "qualifier"?

Yes which is why I added the explanation of my feeling we are hearing the use of that word OR in different ways. I don't hear it as a qualifier to his use or not if the lift. But such is the use of language lol. So in the end we'll see how this all plays out once people start throwing 35s on and see what happens

 

[TTEChris]

He posted another set of pics with him flexing no problem, no lift, no rub....-12 offset! We’re good to go. I’m adding 2” lift anyway but just wanted to make sure that people realize that yes you can fit 35s...

And that's nowhere near full articulation. But yes, I'm sure you can drive around on the street with 35's no problem.
I like to offroad my Jeep, and under full articulation it looks like 35s will be eating into the fenders.
Full Articulation with the correct bumpstops/trimming to make it work...

 

[DaveNH]

Yes

Then you should also understand that my interpretation doesn't contradict your interpretation.

That yes, you can put 35s on there without doing a thing, but maybe not to your definition of "fit" without a lift.

It's all about the pause, imo.

 

[jericbarg]

I can confirm a 35 on (17x8.5 -10) will fit on the stock spare carrier.
It does slightly rest on the bumper when closed but that does add a little bit of stability.

 

[AZCrawl]

I plan on a 1" spacer and a 3" body lift and it'll be fine with 37's..

If you will never wheel the thing that is fine, if you plan on wheeling it, do NOT go this route.

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