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[Ratbert]

You're welcome. I'm very particular about reducing as much blindspots as possible, because my Wrangler has a lot of stuff inside and outside, so your mirrors are the perfect upgrade.

Anyway, those are digital side view monitors that I use to supplement the side view mirrors and the digital rear view mirror. I got them on Amazon a little over a year ago. I already had both front- and rear-facing cameras but relied on convex mirrors for blindspots. I know digital side view monitors are getting popular in Europe, but not in the U.S. yet, so I installed those monitors and they've been working quite nicely.

This is where I got it from:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C61TS7WR

I apparently bought the last one, and it's been out of stock ever since. Road Top's own website doesn't even list the product. However, I did find the exact same product on Alibaba:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Electronic-Mirror-Side-Mirror-Dual-Lens_1601674286607.html

The monitors came with mounts that just get taped to the dashboard using VHB tape, so I just replaced those with the A-pillar grab handle phone mounts.

They have integrated blindspot warning for vehicles and pedestrians, as well as the ability to splice into the reverse gear to automatically change the viewing angle when the transmission goes into reverse. It has both rear- and front-facing cameras. Under normal use the entire screen displays the rear sides, but if I click the multifunction button twice, it toggles whatever the front cameras see in the 1/3rd of the outer edges of the screens, which is great for parking and trail use because they show exactly how the front wheels are positioned and turned, as well as the terrain that would otherwise be completely obstructed by the A-pillars. They're very useful for squeezing through narrow trails, and complement my front-facing camera nicely. You can kind of see what I'm talking about in the photo below.

Apart from that, another nice thing is the fact that the cameras seem to have good sensors. They're not STARVIS, but they're good enough that I can actually see what's near the vehicle at night time, whereas the physical mirrors will be pitch black. In almost total darkness, the displays don't turn grayscale to increase sensitivity, but rather dim but still display color, so I don't think there's much post processing involved. The sensors are still quite sensitive, and what can be seen on the monitors are far more useful than the mirrors. Here's a comparison of what can be seen using the mirror versus what the monitor shows in darkness.

I did some research and FMVSS mandates vehicle manufacturers to have physical mirrors installed from factory, but there's nothing about end-users from installing digital side view monitors themselves, so these are completely legal to have in the U.S. If you designed it specifically for the Wranglers and sell them, I'm sure there will be a demand. I see other manufacturers starting to integrate sideview cameras into their digital rear view mirrors, so that could be an option that you can go with for your line of digital rear view mirrors.

I personally prefer having separate monitor, to prevent the rear view mirror from getting crowded, and having the monitors positioned near the physical mirrors makes it easier to cover all the bases.

All that, yet you don't have blind spot monitoring? That's unexpected.

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[yokramer]

please tell me this is ai

 

[Remorseless]

How do you live with all of that stuff across the dash? This hurts my soul.

 

[WannFly]

This hurts my soul.

Didnt think you had one?

 

[Remorseless]

Didnt think you had one?

 

[whitechocolate]

 

[yokramer]

How do you live with all of that stuff across the dash? This hurts my soul.

I bet he wouldnt need some special mirrors for blind spots if he didnt let the temu electronics section jizz all over his interior.

 

[Remorseless]

I bet he wouldnt need some special mirrors for blind spots if he didnt let the temu electronics section jizz all over his interior.

Over/under on there being molle panels across the rear windows?

 

[yokramer]

Over/under on there being molle panels across the rear windows?

Thats a suckers bet I wont take it.

 

[dank8307]

All that, yet you don't have blind spot monitoring? That's unexpected.

Nope. I like to see what's actually around me instead of relying on a little light. Some time before I bought my JL, I saw somewhere about how the optional nanny system kept the vehicle from moving because of the proximity to the wall or another vehicle until it was put in 4L. It might have been one of the TFL videos. I didn't want to deal with that, so I just opted without it.

How do you live with all of that stuff across the dash? This hurts my soul.

Easy. I look out the windshield unless I need to use something that's mounted inside. It also helps that I used to drive stuff like LMTVs and Bearcats with about 300 different gauges and switches with piss poor visibility. I like to think of it as some sort of PTSD from having to deal with those vehicles, hence my fixation on reducing blindspots.

 

[Ratbert]

Nope. I like to see what's actually around me instead of relying on a little light.

The light is somewhat irrelevant. It's the alert that makes you realize someone just moved into that lane w/o you realizing it. It becomes significantly more useful when there's more than two lanes in each direction.

Some time before I bought my JL, I saw somewhere about how the optional nanny system kept the vehicle from moving because of the proximity to the wall or another vehicle until it was put in 4L. It might have been one of the TFL videos. I didn't want to deal with that, so I just opted without it.

I'm guessing you saw that on another vehicle and not a JL.

 

[yokramer]

Nope. I like to see what's actually around me instead of relying on a little light. Some time before I bought my JL, I saw somewhere about how the optional nanny system kept the vehicle from moving because of the proximity to the wall or another vehicle until it was put in 4L. It might have been one of the TFL videos. I didn't want to deal with that, so I just opted without it.



Easy. I look out the windshield unless I need to use something that's mounted inside. It also helps that I used to drive stuff like LMTVs and Bearcats with about 300 different gauges and switches with piss poor visibility. I like to think of it as some sort of PTSD from having to deal with those vehicles, hence my fixation on reducing blindspots.

Or you could you know .... turn and look?


Some people need to be studied for medical science to figure out why they are the way they are.

 

[Remorseless]

Easy. I look out the windshield unless I need to use something that's mounted inside. It also helps that I used to drive stuff like LMTVs and Bearcats with about 300 different gauges and switches with piss poor visibility. I like to think of it as some sort of PTSD from having to deal with those vehicles, hence my fixation on reducing blindspots.

I would say it appears you've successfully replicated the experience in those vehicles then

 

[Jeff's Jeep]

You're welcome. I'm very particular about reducing as much blindspots as possible, because my Wrangler has a lot of stuff inside and outside, so your mirrors are the perfect upgrade.

Anyway, those are digital side view monitors that I use to supplement the side view mirrors and the digital rear view mirror. I got them on Amazon a little over a year ago. I already had both front- and rear-facing cameras but relied on convex mirrors for blindspots. I know digital side view monitors are getting popular in Europe, but not in the U.S. yet, so I installed those monitors and they've been working quite nicely.

This is where I got it from:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C61TS7WR

I apparently bought the last one, and it's been out of stock ever since. Road Top's own website doesn't even list the product. However, I did find the exact same product on Alibaba:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Electronic-Mirror-Side-Mirror-Dual-Lens_1601674286607.html

The monitors came with mounts that just get taped to the dashboard using VHB tape, so I just replaced those with the A-pillar grab handle phone mounts.

They have integrated blindspot warning for vehicles and pedestrians, as well as the ability to splice into the reverse gear to automatically change the viewing angle when the transmission goes into reverse. It has both rear- and front-facing cameras. Under normal use the entire screen displays the rear sides, but if I click the multifunction button twice, it toggles whatever the front cameras see in the 1/3rd of the outer edges of the screens, which is great for parking and trail use because they show exactly how the front wheels are positioned and turned, as well as the terrain that would otherwise be completely obstructed by the A-pillars. They're very useful for squeezing through narrow trails, and complement my front-facing camera nicely. You can kind of see what I'm talking about in the photo below.

Apart from that, another nice thing is the fact that the cameras seem to have good sensors. They're not STARVIS, but they're good enough that I can actually see what's near the vehicle at night time, whereas the physical mirrors will be pitch black. In almost total darkness, the displays don't turn grayscale to increase sensitivity, but rather dim but still display color, so I don't think there's much post processing involved. The sensors are still quite sensitive, and what can be seen on the monitors are far more useful than the mirrors. Here's a comparison of what can be seen using the mirror versus what the monitor shows in darkness.

I did some research and FMVSS mandates vehicle manufacturers to have physical mirrors installed from factory, but there's nothing about end-users from installing digital side view monitors themselves, so these are completely legal to have in the U.S. If you designed it specifically for the Wranglers and sell them, I'm sure there will be a demand. I see other manufacturers starting to integrate sideview cameras into their digital rear view mirrors, so that could be an option that you can go with for your line of digital rear view mirrors.


I personally prefer having separate monitor, to prevent the rear view mirror from getting crowded, and having the monitors positioned near the physical mirrors makes it easier to cover all the bases.

Just curious. What happens if you're in an accident and your airbags deploy? You're going to have shrapnel flying all over that interior.

 

[SlickRicksWilly]

I was going to adjust my mirrors to figure out if I needed this but I don't seem to have mirrors at the moment.

Nope. I like to see what's actually around me instead of relying on a little light.

So instead of a light you rely on more screens than the TV wall at Best Buy? It's a joke, but seriously you're interior is terrifying to me and gives me anxiety just looking at it. I know I am going to regret asking but what even is all that stuff?

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