Parts missing from 2026 JLU Rubicon?

[Pismo61]

I think they went on starting Dec. builds.

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[Wabujitsu]

Ha ha, you are absolutely correct. Grab the steering wheel and brace for landing impact! Don't try evasive maneuvers.

Funny thing is I didn't have to cut a thing before I mounted the 38s. They are the new Toyo RT Pro 38x11.5x17s mounted on Method 903s with zero offset. I measured and measured and measured before finally pulling the trigger on the tires. The shop even mounted one on my rim so that we could check rub on each corner. Surprisingly, there was more clearance from rubbing than what I currently had mounted, a 35x12.5x17 KM3.

I've only had them for about 3 to 4 weeks with very little seat time, but I am enormously impressed with the Toyo tires so far. I used glass balancing beads instead of lead balancing weights at the recommendation of a poster here that was confirmed by my tire shop. They seem to be doing an excellent job of balancing the whole tire/wheel assembly thus far.

I plan to write.a review of the tires once I get enough seat time both onroad and offroad. I haven't had the chance to get offroad yet. But at this point I can say they are a very good alternative to the Nitto 38x11.5x17 available on the market.

Out of curiosity I crawled under my Jeep last night to find these braces. I did not find any on my 2025 JL. But maybe I was looking at them and just didn't recognize what I was looking at. So my deduction stands; in a really nasty offset crash, I will probably roll the Jeep. Not a comforting thought, but it is reality.

I’ve also got Toyo RT Pro tires on my JLUR, 35X12.50R17. It’s the best tire I’ve ever used; I am highly impressed! They are classified as a “hybrid MT.” In spite of that, they are very refined on-road, with none of the infamous MT pulling-to-one-side. They track beautifully with no pull.

Off-road they have proven to be just as good as any aggressive MT I have ever used, in mud and sugar sand.

One of the best things about this tire is the 45K mile tread life warranty. I don’t know of any other MT tire that even has a tread warranty.

 

[LSJKU]

I’ve also got Toyo RT Pro tires on my JLUR, 35X12.50R17. It’s the best tire I’ve ever used; I am highly impressed! They are classified as a “hybrid MT.” In spite of that, they are very refined on-road, with none of the infamous MT pulling-to-one-side. They track beautifully with no pull.

Off-road they have proven to be just as good as any aggressive MT I have ever used, in mud and sugar sand.

One of the best things about this tire is the 45K mile tread life warranty. I don’t know of any other MT tire that even has a tread warranty.

Only 3 to 4 weeks in and I have to agree with you. The Toyo RT Pro is turning out to be an awesome tire. First thing I noticed was how quiet they were onroad compared to my 35x12.5x17 KM3's. I could actually hear my cheap ass Alpine radio again. And the second thing I noticed was that my Jeep stayed in the lane better, no more of that lateral "drift" I had become so used to with the KM3s. And the third thing I loved was that I got first gear back with 4.88's. IT's awesome to take off from a stoplight in first gear again.

Truthfully, I am not sure what eliminated the tendency of the Jeep to drift. I was thinking it was the skinnier tire with a more oblong contact patch that was responsible, but your tires are 12.5 inch wide, and you say you no longer drift. That is a really curious thing to me. Ever since I have owned a Jeep they have tended to drift on 12.5" wide tires, whether they be 33s, 35s or 37s. I used to tell people you just had to learn to drive a Jeep with a loose grip and let it drift a little, it usually came back to center lane. But now, with these tires, I don't know. Maybe someone else with more tire knowledge than us can chime in on this surprising phenom of the Toyo RT Pro.

Ok, the obligatory pic of the 38s. And a shout out to the store I've been buying tires at for like, forever:

 

[Atomic5]

I think they went on starting Dec. builds.

Correct. Along with the steel hoods. At this rate the steer axle weight will be more than my F250

 

[gato]

They are the new Toyo RT Pro 38x11.5x17s mounted on Method 903s with zero offset. I measured and measured and measured before finally pulling the trigger on the tires. The shop even mounted one on my rim so that we could check rub on each corner. Surprisingly, there was more clearance from rubbing than what I currently had mounted, a 35x12.5x17 KM3.

Wow, I didn't even know they made 38x11.5.

My new tires on order are Baja Boss AT (37x12.5) on 5.2" offset wheels. I just read on Mickey T's website that the section width of these tires are actually 13" wide, which makes them the widest 12.5" tire on the market. I'm now worried it will rub the control arm.

But I don't thing the crash brackets will be an issue.

 

[LSJKU]

The Mickey T Baja Boss AT 37x12.5s are very popular with the peeps here. And probably for very good reason. I believe you will be very happy with them.

I am experimenting with the taller/narrower tires to see/experience the difference from the std 37x12.5s myself. It all stems from the Pizza Cutter threads on the forum, and the fact that I have never deviated from the usual 33", 35", 37"x12.5s in my life.

I just want to try something from the other side, although I don't consider 11.5"wide tires as "Pizza Cutters." It's still a pretty wide tire, section width on the Toyo is 11.4", about 1-1/2" narrower than what you ordered. But the BBAT is a very wide tire indeed. At 5.2" offset, you are going to be very close to the control arms. Stock offset is 6.5" and you are not much less at 5.2". My 35x12.5 KM3s on zero offset Methods got close to the arms. Not uncomfortable close, but close enough that it makes me cringe thinking about 37"s on 5.2" offset wheels.

Spacers may be in your future. I had to run 1-3/4" spacers for 35x12.5 on my 2018 stock rims to stop the rubbing and contact with the arms.

Thus far I am loving the Toyo 38x11.5s and have not noted any downsides yet. But I haven't put them to hard offroad use either. That is coming as soon as I can get away for a few days. Wabujitsu has the Toyo 37x12.5 RT Pros on his Jeep and swears by them. They are a somewhat newer offering from Toyo to compete with the Nitto and Patagonia offerings in the 38x11.5 class. I think Falken Wildpeaks come in 38x11.5 as well.

Although there's lots of love for the MTBB's in either AT or MT, I have a strong mental block to buying Mickey T's. I remember how expensive all the Mickey T offerings seemed to be compared to all the other tires (bias ply and belted) from my younger (read poorer) 4-wheeling days. Back then, they were a "rich man's" tire and I stuck with the BFG MT's for most of my life. I've had a long, positive track record with the BFGs, despite the negativity they generate here on the forum. And i'm aware a lot of 4-wheelers in Colorado (where I like to wheel) shy away from the BFG for whatever reason (I mostly hear BFGs don't have great grip for crawling). I'm not a hard-core rock crawler, and I'm probably not enough of a hard-core 4-wheeler to be able to tell a difference in the grip of a BFG on rocks.

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