Per a Jeep dealership the JL is not water tight/expect it to fill with water during water crossings!

[James]

James - I respect that you do a lot of water crossings, but just the way you're using your words is tough to follow. You've gone from claiming "no" water got into your other jeeps to now saying just not a "massive" amount of water would get in (your friend's jeep, I think you said). That's a big difference. And for those of us who have done some actual water crossings, we know that water gets in. It just does. These are consumer vehicles, not military-grade vehicles.

I just think you're being a little unrealistic here. Just my opinion.

If you're going to do a water crossing, it's dumb to have the drain plug in the rubber Mopar floor mats, but those of us who do this kind of stuff regularly know that without having it told to us. It's just common sense. Take the plug out of the mat and put it directly back into the floor, not the mat.

Also, I have the Mopar front grab handles and have not experienced them hitting the windows while off roading. Admittedly I usually have my windows down while off roading, so do most of my club... I don't know. Just getting a weirdish vibe from some of your claims.

Hey,
Thanks again for joining in on this
I was trying to be clear about the amount of water. There are a lot of replies to this tread where folks are saying a dribble is not water. To a Jeep is not water tight. To what do you expect?
Just keep the drain plug in place.

What I’m trying to point out is to the average person who buys a JLUR with the all weather floor mats. Bring this to their attention and get a conversation going on what others are experiencing.
Are the floor mats supposed to make a water tight fit like the drain plug does?
If not why is there not some sort of instruction saying to put the drain plug back into the floor pan. Remember most folks won’t know about doing this.

Common sense with many folks? Not everyone has experience like others nor common sense when it comes to water crossings or off roading.

Do I have sommon sense? Yes, I put the drain plug back into the floor pan where it belongs.

Yet, when you watch all of the YouTube videos of installing these floor mats no one is making a warning about, Hey, be careful, if you pull that drain plug out and put it into that floor mat and do any water crossings your brand new JL is going to fill with water as if you did not have the drain plug installed.
Try to remember there are thousands of folks out there who have never off roaded, they buy a part or product and have no ideal of how it works. We have all been this person at some point and time in our life. They read the instructions and install it.
The whole point of my post is to bring attention to the fact there maybe another Mopar product design flaw like with their 2” lift.

We are doing a big bear run this weekend.
I’ll take a video and post it on YouTube of my grab handles hitting the windows.
Unfortunately I’m always in the middle or tail end of the group because I end up do the spotting most all of the time. If I left my windows down the inside of my Jeep would look like a sand trap.

Here is a photo of my JLUR, it will only see dirt for the time I own it.
We leave on the 8th for Utah. I’m gone at least a week every month for an off road trip.

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[James]

Holy shit dude, if you're so worried then put the drain plug in the floor underneath the mat and it'll be even more watertight because the mat will hold it in.

I have the factory mats and they didn't bother to cut the hole and move the drain plug, so the mat sits on top. Not a big deal, I'll probably install them properly at some point but if I do a water crossing and water gets in I'll just pull the carpets. It's not something worth worrying about.

Hey

We are talking about the all weather floor mats. The instructions show, cutting the carpet, pulling the drain plug, push the floor mat into the drain plug hole and inserting the drain plug into the floor mat.
The floor mat does not make a water tight seal like the drain plug does. So anyone who does this and does a water crossing is going to have their JL fill with water.
I know better than to do this.
I’m wondering if this was designed this way or is this another Mopar design flaw like their 2” lift problem they had.
Some folks are saying their all weather floor mats fit tightly in the drain hole while others like myself do not.

 

[cbr954]

Show us you Lamborghini.


Oh, you are now a famous putz.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General...NDS-LIKE-LAMBORGHINI-f-n-Jeep-guy-/5-2115271/:cwl:

 

[cbr954]

Here is OP in his Lambo.

 

[bobzdar]

Hey

We are talking about the all weather floor mats. The instructions show, cutting the carpet, pulling the drain plug, push the floor mat into the drain plug hole and inserting the drain plug into the floor mat.
The floor mat does not make a water tight seal like the drain plug does. So anyone who does this and does a water crossing is going to have their JL fill with water.
I know better than to do this.
I’m wondering if this was designed this way or is this another Mopar design flaw like their 2” lift problem they had.
Some folks are saying their all weather floor mats fit tightly in the drain hole while others like myself do not.

Yeah, I understand fully, I have the same mats. just put the plug under the mat if you do a water crossing if you're worried about it.

 

[James]

The floor mats have the same sealing ring that the plug does . It takes some work to get it sealed, check underneath the Jeep to be sure it fixed itself all around. The plug installed on the top of the floor mat just seals the water/snow from your feet from going thru to the cloth mat!
Before installing turn the rubber all weather mat upside down and study how it works by fitting as the plug you pulled out did. Then press hard work it around and check out under the vehicle.!!! I kinda wish I waited for Weather Tech to get theres going and left the plugs in! Although no leakage this messy winter. We'll see??

Go Jeep!!!

Hey
So you have a set that are sealing?
Mine flop around in the hole no matter how hard I push them down.
The dealership said this is normal, they don’t make a water tight fit.
This is why I made this tread. Some are seating while others are not.
I put the drain plug back into the floor pan.
The dealership said all of there’s flop around like mine so this is normal.

 

[James]

Lol
That’s funny

 

[James]

Show us you Lamborghini.


Oh, you are now a famous putz.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General...NDS-LIKE-LAMBORGHINI-f-n-Jeep-guy-/5-2115271/:cwl:

? Does a car make you famous in your part of the country?
I switched from sport cars to off road toys years ago.
Since your clowning me, let’s see your JL? What are all the upgrades have you done so far?
Here is my JL
When the gobi roof rack, Ikamper tent and Baja design lights like get here next month, I’ll be just over $82k for a toy that sets in my garage for my once a month off road trips?
There are always arm chair quarterback who try to clown others. Do you just troll others or do you join into a conversation about a problem others are experiencing?
If your just trolling move along!

 

[LABLUE]

? Does a car make you famous in your part of the country?
I switched from sport cars to off road toys years ago.
Since your clowning me, let’s see your JL? What are all the upgrades have you done so far?
Here is my JL
When the gobi roof rack, Ikamper tent and Baja design lights like get here next month, I’ll be just over $82k for a toy that sets in my garage for my once a month off road trips?
There are always arm chair quarterback who try to clown others. Do you just troll others or do you join into a conversation about a problem others are experiencing?
If your just trolling move along!

What's next a pic of your small penis? Cool you dropped some coin on a Jeep and your carpet will get wet when you go through water. I have seen a lot of jeeps with water lines half way up the door and the insides trashed from water and mud.

 

[James]

Yeah, I understand fully, I have the same mats. just put the plug under the mat if you do a water crossing if you're worried about it.

Hey

That is what I did.
Here is what I’m gathering so far. Some folks floor mats fit tightly while others are like mine and flop around.
Are the Mopar floor mats like their 2” lift?
Was it designed to hold out water like the drain plug? If not, it would be a good ideal to let folks know. Not everyone has common sense.
When I was at the dealership today, they said there is no information saying the JL can go into any kind of water without having water come into it.
This was news to me considering the amount of water crossings I have done over the years and never had one flood.
When I mean flood, take out the floor pan drain plugs and try to do a water crossing.
I’m still waiting to hear back from Jeep care.
When there was a problem with their 2” lift Jeep care pushed back saying this was normal. It was not until hundreds of folks said the coil spring hitting the bump stop is not normal they addressed the problem. It took months and hundreds of complaints before they looked into the problem

 

[James]

What's next a pic of your small penis? Cool you dropped some coin on a Jeep and your carpet will get wet when you go through water. I have seen a lot of jeeps with water lines half way up the door and the insides trashed from water and mud.

Dude,
Did you not read the post I was replying to?
Seriously? I was replying to a person who was clowning me, than here is another clown who just chimes in without reading the post I was replying to!
Serioulsy?
Unreal?
Did you even take any time to read through the conversation? Nope you just jump in clowning someone without even knowing what your talking about.
This is always a problem on some of these forms. Folks who don’t take any time to read through something and just blabs out talking smack on someone without even knowing what they are talking about. Congratulations you are that person today! you win!

 

[cbr954]

? Does a car make you famous in your part of the country?
I switched from sport cars to off road toys years ago.
Since your clowning me, let’s see your JL? What are all the upgrades have you done so far?
Here is my JL
When the gobi roof rack, Ikamper tent and Baja design lights like get here next month, I’ll be just over $82k for a toy that sets in my garage for my once a month off road trips?
There are always arm chair quarterback who try to clown others. Do you just troll others or do you join into a conversation about a problem others are experiencing?
If your just trolling move along!

Lmao... You really are a tool. No one is impressed.

 

[bobzdar]

I think the answer you want is yes, so yes, they're defective if they are properly installed and don't fit tightly. For me, and most I imagine, it doesn't matter one bit. Not even worth the effort it takes to reply to this thread at this point, let alone complain to Jeep cares. I'll put the plugs under the mats when I cross, but even if I parked in 30"of water and 3"of water filled the floor, who cares? Just drive out and let it drain. It won't damage anything.

 

[James]

I think the answer you want is yes, so yes, they're defective if they are properly installed and don't fit tightly. For me, and most I imagine, it doesn't matter one bit. Not even worth the effort it takes to reply to this thread at this point, let alone complain to Jeep cares. I'll put the plugs under the mats when I cross, but even if I parked in 30"of water and 3"of water filled the floor, who cares? Just drive out and let it drain. It won't damage anything.

Hey,

Thank you for replying.


My whole point to the tread was two points. One the dealership said the JL is not water tight and you should expect it to flood. Two is anyone else having the same problem with their floor mats. Some are while others are not. What was frustrating was the dealership would not even look at the floor mats stating it does not matter because the JL is not water tight with or without the drain plugs. Unless they have something in writing stating otherwise.
A few members posted where to find the information regarding the JL and water fording.
That was my only points.
Others pulled it in another direction.

 

[James]

Lmao... You really are a tool. No one is impressed.

It’s not about being impressed.
It’s about you trolling my tread and me! That is what you did? Right? Rather than adding something to a conversation, you rather clown someone! Right? so Who is the tool? The person asking some questions or the person clowning someone? Think about that!

My whole tread was about a dealership stating the JL is not water tight in any way shape or form. If you go into any water you should expect water to come into the vehicle as if the drain plugs were removed. Since this was news to me I posted asking where to get information about the JL. If you read through the post you would have seen two members telling where to look.
Instead you chimed in trying to clown someone without even knowing anything about that person. Yeah, this was you!

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