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Looking for a dealer in S W FL, but can be anywhere that wants to place an order for a 23 Rubicon. Have not found a dealer yet, they do not want to take order.

Do not give me a dealer in the 34117 zip, gone thru them already.
Gupton outside of Nashville, TN. I ordered a 23 Sahara Altitude Diesel and got 10.2% off MSRP or 1% below invoice. However you want to look at it. There are 2 invoice prices, Friends n Family and Employee. I see a lot of people claiming 5% below invoice. But which invoice is it?
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KOONS, is this some kind of a JOKE:

https://www.koonsjeep.com/api/legacy/pse/windowsticker/jeep?vin=1C4HJXEG3NW118496

Window sticker for a Koons 2022 Jeep Sahara: $51,810

KOONS PRICE: Koons Price$89,998 PLUS, dealer fees etc

https://www.koonsjeep.com/exotic-ne...irfax-VA-b1a44e6b0a0e0971574eb683458a99aa.htm

This is a $38,XXX markup on a run-of-the-mill Shara....
I know that’s a wild mark up but my guess is that they’re trying to mimic the Black Widow package that comes on Chevy Trucks. Lift, custom interior, lights, bumpers, etc. They may have done some wild stuff to the engine too. Doesn’t make sense that they’re just marking up one specific Jeep, the rest of their on the lot new vehicle prices are normal.
 

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Thats all we can do. It hasn’t even been a month since I ordered from Koons. I’ll check in with Craig in a couple weeks, and if he doesnt have an update for me I’ll wait another month and check again. The anticipation is half the fun.
Exactly 100 percent. I will savor the steak more if it is aged longer. That also gives me plenty of time to get the nursery ready for when she arrives lol
 

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I know that’s a wild mark up but my guess is that they’re trying to mimic the Black Widow package that comes on Chevy Trucks. Lift, custom interior, lights, bumpers, etc. They may have done some wild stuff to the engine too. Doesn’t make sense that they’re just marking up one specific Jeep, the rest of their on the lot new vehicle prices are normal.
I posted a bit back that I called Koons and it is a Black Widow package. The photo didn't update is all. But done by that outfit the sales guy told me.
 

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Exactly 100 percent. I will savor the steak more if it is aged longer. That also gives me plenty of time to get the nursery ready for when she arrives lol
There’s people on this forum that spend thousands of dollars on parts prior to their Jeep even arriving. If you’ve got the cash, get all the stuff you want ahead of time and trick it out as soon as it arrives
 

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I posted a bit back that I called Koons and it is a Black Widow package. The photo didn't update is all. But done by that outfit the sales guy told me.
Yeah they‘re similar to those dues in Texas that make the Velociraptor, just nowhere near as expensive.
 

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There’s people on this forum that spend thousands of dollars on parts prior to their Jeep even arriving. If you’ve got the cash, get all the stuff you want ahead of time and trick it out as soon as it arrives
Exactly, have fun if a person wants to do it. I would like to see some radar detector sets up people have done and where they tapped into for power. As well as dash cam set ups. I think there was a post showing. Ill have to research that.
 

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Exactly, have fun if a person wants to do it. I would like to see some radar detector sets up people have done and where they tapped into for power. As well as dash cam set ups. I think there was a post showing. Ill have to research that.
There’s people on YouTube running super chargers on JLU’s. The price doesn’t really make sense, a loaded rubicon with a super charger isn’t much less expensive than a 392.
 

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There’s people on YouTube running super chargers on JLU’s. The price doesn’t really make sense, a loaded rubicon with a super charger isn’t much less expensive than a 392.
Agree on that one, and than its been modded. I would much rather have the 392 with no engine mods.
 

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Gupton outside of Nashville, TN. I ordered a 23 Sahara Altitude Diesel and got 10.2% off MSRP or 1% below invoice. However you want to look at it. There are 2 invoice prices, Friends n Family and Employee. I see a lot of people claiming 5% below invoice. But which invoice is it?
As far as I can tell there's only one invoice price. The latest pricing was posted today.

10.2% off MSRP is unlikely to be 1% under invoice. For 2022s that would be in the neighborhood of 4% under invoice (depending on options).
 
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There’s people on this forum that spend thousands of dollars on parts prior to their Jeep even arriving. If you’ve got the cash, get all the stuff you want ahead of time and trick it out as soon as it arrives
There are still exceptionally long lead times on Jeep gear. Order it early if you can.
 

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As far as I can tell there's only one invoice price. The latest pricing was posted today.

10.2% off MSRP is unlikely to be 1% under invoice. For 2022s that would be in the neighborhood of 4% under invoice (depending on options).
For '23 the 1% under invoice with FCA affiliate pricing works out to around 6.6% off MSRP. Employee pricing works out to 10.2% off MSRP (~4.7% off invoice).
 

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I talked to them out of curiosity. He said it is actually a Black Widow package. Lifted, LEDs, different interior and leather, all kinds of stuff done to it. The photo didn't show it is what happened.
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