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Owned by a friend's grandfather. His mother learned to drive with it.

Ford built the GPW and Willys built the MB. Both had a 9 slot front grill. Willys started the CJ2A in 1945 with the 7 slot grill. Willys also licensed the "AgriJeep" in 1944. AgriJeep and CJ2A had a tail gate.

The body and frame of this one indicates Ford GPW. No tail gate. In 1944 the body was subcontracted to a 3rd party. The 3rd party body tubs had a round recess for the tool box lid release on the rear fender as did the Willys body. Willys was also stamped on the body in the rear an a few other places. The square recess on this one as well as the tool box lid indicates a ford body. Some ford parts were used on Willy's for the CJ2A's I believe except for the 9 slot grill. I have not seen a CJ2A with the 9 slot.

Ford front frame cross member is a U channel under the front grill. Willys had a tube cross member between the grill and bottom of radiator. So my guess is this is a 1943 or earlier GPW. I will get the frame number and the sequential # will indicate how early it was built. I think ford built about 277'000 by the end of the war. Guessing this one was a crate surplus sale due to the fairly good tire condition for 80 year old tires. (except one tire is different so It could have been one that was in service or the tire was swapped later.

The MB's and GPW's did not have a PTO on the rear as the AgriJeeps did, but the dana 18 gear drive transfer case used on the military models had a blank off plate on the rear side of the front drive shaft. Removing the plate you can bolt on a Spicer 18H gear box to add the PTO and another gear box is used at the rear to change PTO speeds for farm equip. The hitch on the rear was likely used on the GPW and MB as they pulled anti tank guns and other things with these during the war and during testing.

Surplus Jeeps began being sold to civilians as early as 1944. The first sold was to a Kansas rancher named Fred Heine and was in the press at the time. Life magazine was the publisher I believe.

The Go Devil 4cyl motor was later changed to Hurricane. Unfortunately the motor of this one is froze up and the owners have put oil and diesel in the cylinders hoping they can get it to go. Looks like it was last registered in 1984.

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Wow, learned alot. I wasnt aware of the fact that Ford actually produced some of those, always thought they were all Willys. Awesome find and great information.
 

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Very cool. 👍

How much for the old Iowa license plate?
 

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Owned by a friend's grandfather. His mother learned to drive with it.

Ford built the GPW and Willys built the MB. Both had a 9 slot front grill. Willys started the CJ2A in 1945 with the 7 slot grill. Willys also licensed the "AgriJeep" in 1944. AgriJeep and CJ2A had a tail gate.

The body and frame of this one indicates Ford GPW. No tail gate. In 1944 the body was subcontracted to a 3rd party. The 3rd party body tubs had a round recess for the tool box lid release on the rear fender as did the Willys body. Willys was also stamped on the body in the rear an a few other places. The square recess on this one as well as the tool box lid indicates a ford body. Some ford parts were used on Willy's for the CJ2A's I believe except for the 9 slot grill. I have not seen a CJ2A with the 9 slot.

Ford front frame cross member is a U channel under the front grill. Willys had a tube cross member between the grill and bottom of radiator. So my guess is this is a 1943 or earlier GPW. I will get the frame number and the sequential # will indicate how early it was built. I think ford built about 277'000 by the end of the war. Guessing this one was a crate surplus sale due to the fairly good tire condition for 80 year old tires. (except one tire is different so It could have been one that was in service of the tire was swapped later.

The MB's and GPW's did not have a PTO on the rear as the AgriJeeps did, but the dana 18 gear drive transfer case used on the military models had a blank off plate on the rear side of the front drive shaft. Removing the plate you can bolt on a Spicer 18H gear box to add the PTO and another gear box is used at the rear to change PTO speeds for farm equip. The hitch on the rear was likely used on the GPW and MB as they pulled anti tank guns and other things with these during the war and during testing.

Surplus Jeeps began being sold to civilians as early as 1944. The first sold was to a Kansas rancher named Fred Heine and was in the press at the time. Life magazine was the publisher I believe.

The Go Devil 4cyl motor was later changed to Hurricane. Unfortunately the motor of this one is froze up and the owners have put oil and diesel in the cylinders hoping they can get it to go. Looks like it was last registered in 1984.

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Sir, that is AWESOME!!! I greatly envy you (in spite of the mechanical issues) and I’m happy for you!

Here’s a photo of Fred Heine’s Jeep you wrote about in your post, on display at the U.S. Veterans Memorial Museum at Huntsville, AL.

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Thanks for posting!
 

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OMG that is Awesome. Thanks for sharing.

I remember as a kid, back in the 1960's, we always heard of these surplus WWII Jeeps being for sale. Supposedly still in the crates. My great uncle had one on his farm down in North Carolina.

That would be awesome to restore. Good luck with it.

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The Jeep is in a friends family and not for sale. I did take another closer look when it wasn't dark and found the serial tag on the dash. Delivered Aug 1942. 55710 of about 90k made the first year by Ford.

The American Austin Car Company Inc. was an American automobile manufacturing corporation incorporated in the state of Delaware. The company was founded on February 23, 1929, and produced motorcars licensed from the British Austin Motor Company from 1930 through 1934, after it had filed for bankruptcy protection. The company was liquidated in 1935 and the assets were acquired by Evans Operations, Inc. and a new company American Bantam Car Company was incorporated in June 1936.

Bantam price was $1166 and they produced a prototype in 49 days. About 2600 Bantams were produced. Testing was in 1940. Some had 4 wheel steering. Willys price was $736.
Bantam offered a lower price for the first 500. The Russians favored the Bantam design. Through a Lend Lease program the Russians received around 800 with about 500 going to the Red Army by 1942. The rest went to fire fighting and similar agencies.

The Army had a list of changes they wanted and the plans were given to Willy's and Ford. Bantam built about 10'000 trailers for military use. The Go Devil engine was designed by Willy's.

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That‘s a beautiful GPW. Will look forward to restoration photos! Thanks for sharing these.
 

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I enjoyed the pictures and your written post. Truly amazing! Thank you for sharing!
 

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This is awesome and reminds me of my first Jeep, although it was a Willys MB. Similar story...a barn find in good condition that only required a little work to become a reliable DD. This started a lifelong love affair with Jeeps, to include an M38, CJ-3B, CJ-5, TJ, and now my JL. The more I drive the plasticky and problem-ridden JL, the more I miss those solid old workhorses. While they definitely weren't built for comfort, they just worked and were the most reliable vehicles I ever owned. Sadly, those days are long gone, as modern design and manufacturing quality doesn't even come close.
 

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It’s interesting to see how much they evolved in a span of just over a year to the standardized design as spec’d in Feb 1942

Willys Quad, Jan 1941

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Bantam, original design circa 1940

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Ford Pygmy, note the resemblance to Fred Heine’s jeep shown above

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Bantam BRC early 1941

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There were some other odd variants during those early years. Most of the early orders were given to the British and Russians. But some, like the BRC did see some deployment prior to the US involvement in WW II. The were a lot of slight variants before standardization. Notably fabricated welded bar grilles, vs the Ford designed 9 slot stamped grille that came with standardization.

Also, early jeeps often had the manufacturers stamp on the sheetmetal in some places. By mid 1942, there were no manufacturer stampings allowed, but Ford put their script F on many bolt heads.

No one really gets true bragging rights for creating it, other than the US Army. The Army produced a list of specifications, that no manufacturer was able meet, in order to give the Army the vehicle it specified. After the first run of evaluations, the spec’s were revised by the government, and the result was that each company built relatively similar vehicles.

After the war, a civil court had to decide who would own the rights to the WW II 1/4 ton reconnaissance car, now commonly called a “jeep”. Willys prevailed over Ford in court, and the brand name Jeep, was first used in 1950. Willys began producing them as soon as possible at the close of the war, even though the case in court was still pending.

In a strange turn, Ford bought Willys Motors South American operations in 1967, and produced odd CJ variants for many years.

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