Your Jeep is pretty complex

[TheRaven]

So, I know you're not like a wheeling culture person, but spare fuses are common for off road vehicles that actually get wheeled of all makes. Off road lights, winches, aftermarket electric cooling fans, etc can cause a lot of draw on systems, and a lot of folks are really bad at picking good circuits. Most folks who wheel really hard carry wiring bags with lots of spare stuff for trail fixes. More common in older vehicles with lots of stuff grafted into existing circuits, but still eminently fixable on the trail.

I'm not talking about hardcore wheeling. This could be as simple as long dirt roads to remote locations. Same problem.

Like I said, I made a little joke about it, but my incredulity remains - never in all my years taking GM vehicles off-road have I EVER had to touch a CAN module, controller, harness, main fuse...ANYTHING like that. Dead batteries and blown aux lighting fuses is about it. Never had to re-seat fuses, never had to TAKE APART A DASH TO RE-SEAT A CONNECTOR....nope, none of that.

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[Remorseless]

i carry too much and always convince myself I’ll be a hero and help someone else. Or at least provide tools if I don’t know what Im doing. That‘s just so I don’t have to admit it could be my own vehicle.

I just carry a couple good size bags of hand tools. Enough to change out anything in the suspension or steering. Only really had to use stuff a few times, relatively minor stuff.

 

[yokramer]

i carry too much and always convince myself I’ll be a hero and help someone else. Or at least provide tools if I don’t know what Im doing. That‘s just so I don’t have to admit it could be my own vehicle.

I really need to put together a tool kit sooner than later. Every time I do I just get lost in what I actually need cause i dont want to buy more than the shit the Jeep takes but to buy a specialized kit from one of the companies that puts it together for you is hella expensive.

As of right now I just try to wheel with people that have tools

 

[Old Dogger]

But don't you feel significantly safer In a JL vs the CJ

Yes, day and night difference! Off highway, the CJ5 Renegade that I had, was never very stable, plus rough riding. But, that Jeep would go just about any place that one pointed it in. As for on highway, anything over 50 MPH, it was a death trap. I caused part of this, by having extra leaves added, along with re-arching the springs. So the CJ5, being short and narrow, and now setting up high, made it very unstable.

 

[Remorseless]

I'm not talking about hardcore wheeling. This could be as simple as long dirt roads to remote locations. Same problem.

Like I said, I made a little joke about it, but my incredulity remains - never in all my years taking GM vehicles off-road have I EVER had to touch a CAN module, controller, harness, main fuse...ANYTHING like that. Dead batteries and blown aux lighting fuses is about it. Never had to re-seat fuses, never had to TAKE APART A DASH TO RE-SEAT A CONNECTOR....nope, none of that.

The STAR connector can be accessed behind the glovebox I'm pretty sure. You don't really have to take the dash apart to get to it, pretty sure you just squeeze the two sides of the glovebox together and pop it out.

But, either way, you're not likely to have to mess with that, nor are the vast majority of Jeep owners. My point is, however, all of that is trail fixable, no matter how unlikely it is to have to do said trail repair.

 

[yokramer]

The STAR connector can be accessed behind the glovebox I'm pretty sure. You don't really have to take the dash apart to get to it, pretty sure you just squeeze the two sides of the glovebox together and pop it out.

But, either way, you're not likely to have to mess with that, nor are the vast majority of Jeep owners. My point is, however, all of that is trail fixable, no matter how unlikely it is to have to do said trail repair.

Thinking this way doesnt allow you to just post random things hating on Jeep though.

 

[Terrymo]

I really need to put together a tool kit sooner than later. Every time I do I just get lost in what I actually need cause i dont want to buy more than the shit the Jeep takes but to buy a specialized kit from one of the companies that puts it together for you is hella expensive.

As of right now I just try to wheel with people that have tools

I’m a total novice but like to feel prepared. I’d like to see a full load out listed with pics by @wibornz and others who travel and wheel for long periods of time. But I know it’s a big ask.

 

[Remorseless]

Thinking this way doesnt allow you to just post random things hating on Jeep though.

 

[Remorseless]

I really need to put together a tool kit sooner than later. Every time I do I just get lost in what I actually need cause i dont want to buy more than the shit the Jeep takes but to buy a specialized kit from one of the companies that puts it together for you is hella expensive.

As of right now I just try to wheel with people that have tools

So, kind of a roundabout way to do it, but basically I put my tool kit together based off of what I had to have to do installs for parts or to make adjustments to things at home. Basically ended up just being my general Jeep work tool kit that comes with on the trail, minus some of the nice to haves (impacts, impact socket sets, etc).

 

[yokramer]

I’m a total novice but like to feel prepared. I’d like to see a full load out listed with pics by @wibornz and others who travel and wheel for long periods of time. But I know it’s a big ask.

Ive searched around to see what sizes are common even to put together something out of the extra tools I have and even that info is scattered and conflicting. Would be awesome if someone here put that together for sure.

 

[TheRaven]

The STAR connector can be accessed behind the glovebox I'm pretty sure. You don't really have to take the dash apart to get to it, pretty sure you just squeeze the two sides of the glovebox together and pop it out.

But, either way, you're not likely to have to mess with that, nor are the vast majority of Jeep owners. My point is, however, all of that is trail fixable, no matter how unlikely it is to have to do said trail repair.

I guess it depends on what "not likely" means to you. For me, it is very clear based on this forum, and every industry metric out there, that we are far more likely to encounter a problem we can't fix on the trail with the JL than with most other brands and certainly vs most older vehicles. Problems like the "stop safely vehicle will shut off soon" just don't even exist outside of the Jeep world.

 

[Remorseless]

I guess it depends on what "not likely" means to you. For me, it is very clear based on this forum, and every industry metric out there, that we are far more likely to encounter a problem we can't fix on the trail with the JL than with most other brands and certainly vs most older vehicles. Problems like the "stop safely vehicle will shut off soon" just don't even exist outside of the Jeep world.

They do exist outside of the Jeep world: Silverado turns off while Driveing : r/Silverado (reddit.com)

Customer's 2023 6.2L Silverado with 28k shut off going down the road. Pan full of glitter, one damaged main bearing, three spun rod bearings. : r/Justrolledintotheshop (reddit.com)

silverado shut down stranded off road site:www.reddit.com - Google Search

But again though, you can get a Jeep off the trail with the star connector issue, the fuse array issue, or damn near any other issue. Just a matter of knowing the common issues (though I would suggest that, with the number of JLs out there over what, 6 or 7 years, we'd be hearing more about these issues if they were happening to folks commonly on the trail, so these issues are rarer) with your model vehicle (and every vehicle that's good enough off road to have a dedicated base of users wheeling them hard will have that list somewhere) and knowing how to handle them.

 

[autotragic]

I guess it depends on what "not likely" means to you. For me, it is very clear based on this forum, and every industry metric out there, that we are far more likely to encounter a problem we can't fix on the trail with the JL than with most other brands and certainly vs most older vehicles. Problems like the "stop safely vehicle will shut off soon" just don't even exist outside of the Jeep world.

So what are you going to do about it I mean I see you griping about it okay fine but what are you going to do about it seriously?

 

[Remorseless]

So what are you going to do about it I mean I see you griping about it okay fine but what are you going to do about it seriously?

Refuse to learn how to handle a known, yet unlikely, issue, complain further that said rare issue exists, and then move on to the next thread.

Next question.

 

[autotragic]

Refuse to learn how to handle a known, yet unlikely, issue, complain further that said rare issue exists, and then move on to the next thread.

Next question.

It's a shame he won't trade the Jeep in a Toyota. I mean he says that Jeeps are so bad so go trade it in on the Toyota and let us know how it goes. He needs to just put his money where his mouth is and get it over with.

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