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Except for the fact that they really arent more likely to have the issues. All US makes are trash right now and have similar issues and Toyota is quickly catching up with their engines and transmissions blowing up left and right.
Ah yes...the Jeepers anthem.

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The point was, as I repeatedly noted, that Jeeps are MORE LIKELY to have these issues. Not that other brands DON'T have issues.



Yes, I agree. It's not LIKELY to leave you stranded. See note above.
No, you literally said they don't exist outside of the Jeep world. And yet, those are the links I found with like 30s of Googling for pretty much that exact same problem existing.

Problems like the "stop safely vehicle will shut off soon" just don't even exist outside of the Jeep world.
 

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Ah yes...the Jeepers anthem.

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Hey man I wouldnt buy any other FCA product other than a Wrangler because of the historical issues they have as a company putting together a good product. That doesnt stop the fact that the rest of them can make much better of one these days either.
 

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See this is where your problem lies...maybe you need to get your eyes checked, or maybe you have balance issues...I dunno...but you keep seeing moving points. That's not normal. You should get that looked at.
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No, you literally said they don't exist outside of the Jeep world. And yet, those are the links I found with like 30s of Googling.
Nope. Not the same thing. I said problems like the chronic "stop safely vehicle will shut off soon" don't exist outside of the Jeep world. You posted 10 year old vehicles with engine issues and a couple of one-off individual module failures. Not the same.
 

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Nope. Not the same thing. I said problems like the chronic "stop safely vehicle will shut off soon" don't exist outside of the Jeep world. You posted 10 year old vehicles with engine issues and a couple of one-off individual module failures. Not the same.
You want him to go searching the Cybertruck forums?
 

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You want him to go searching the Cybertruck forums?
Nah, GM's probably enough. There's enough 6.2s out there spinning their main bearings that I'm sure I can find enough trucks just stopping to get my jollies.
 

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Nah, GM's probably enough. There's enough 6.2s out there spinning their main bearings that I'm sure I can find enough trucks just stopping to get my jollies.
Yea but if he specifically wants a display message that tells you to shut your shit off now and you cant drive anymore thats a place to find it
 

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Hey man I wouldnt buy any other FCA product other than a Wrangler because of the historical issues they have as a company putting together a good product. That doesnt stop the fact that the rest of them can make much better of one these days either.
You know what...it's completely fine if you recognize the quality issues and problems and STILL love your Wrangler. I get it. There's a lot to love about the Wrangler. There's nothing wrong with that.

Just be realistic and realize that FCA really kinda blows and the Wrangler is not a shining example of quality. This is where I am. I'm happy with my JLU80 cause it's cool, I can buy toys for it, and it keeps my wife happy (oh great here come the jokes about keeping my wife happy...whatever, go for it). I just accept that its not a well-built high quality vehicle. I expected that when I bought it.
 

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Hey man I wouldnt buy any other FCA product other than a Wrangler because of the historical issues they have as a company putting together a good product. That doesnt stop the fact that the rest of them can make much better of one these days either.
You know I was going to give you like a thumbs up for this post but then I realized I don't agree with you because unfortunately Dodge makes hellcats and I like hellcats. And if I could somehow make that happen I would FCA product or not.

And I have a ram 2500
 

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Yea but if he specifically wants a display message that tells you to shut your shit off now and you cant drive anymore thats a place to find it
But then you'd have to wade through posts made by people who paid actual money for a Cybertruck and I'm not sure I can subject myself to that.
 

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You know what...it's completely fine if you recognize the quality issues and problems and STILL love your Wrangler. I get it. There's a lot to love about the Wrangler. There's nothing wrong with that.

Just be realistic and realize that FCA really kinda blows and the Wrangler is not a shining example of quality. This is where I am. I'm happy with my JLU80 cause it's cool, I can buy toys for it, and it keeps my wife happy (oh great here come the jokes about keeping my wife happy...whatever, go for it). I just accept that its not a well-built high quality vehicle. I expected that when I bought it.
No body is denying they dont have issues. What Remorseless is saying is that nothing that comes up cant be fixed on the trail. You keep going back to that message and electrical issues specifically and then he shows you a bunch of JL era Chevys with similar issues and you dont like it.
 

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But then you'd have to wade through posts made by people who paid actual money for a Cybertruck and I'm not sure I can subject myself to that.
Yeah don't bother we're in agreement about that thing. Tesla as a whole...I don't count it as a real automaker so it's not included when I say "other brands". Whether that's right or wrong I don't care.
 

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You know I was going to give you like a thumbs up for this post but then I realized I don't agree with you because unfortunately Dodge makes hellcats and I like hellcats. And if I could somehow make that happen I would FCA product or not.

And I have a ram 2500
Eh there are better cars and trucks out there that are comparable to anything FCA makes. No one makes a new solid front axle off roader as capable as the Wrangler with the support it has.
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