You bought the wrong vehicle.

[Chrisbayridge1]

My advice to these people is, " Buy a Mercedes Benz SUV"

Hi, I'm Dusty. And I am a condescending jerk. Just wanted to get that out of the way before I continue. This post is my opinion, not a statement of fact. And I know that a lot of people are going to disagree with me. I'm okay with that.

If you bought a Wrangler and you do not go off road, you bought the wrong vehicle. There are so many posts here, with owners complaining about things that are just inherent to how a Wrangler is constructed. "My Jeep rides worse than ____, my gas mileage is bad after lift and tires (duh), it's noisy inside, my steering is funny, etc, etc..."

Not all of these posts are uncalled for, but some of the people have a rather unreasonable expectation. And some wish for Jeep to change the Wrangler to be more in line to what they are expecting. That's where I don't agree with folks. Several times people have expressed the wish for the Wrangler to have IFS, fixed windshields, even a fixed top. If that's what you want, those vehicles already exist. There are other options from most manufacturers that fit those categories. But there is only one vehicle like the Wrangler. The "quirks and features" to quote Doug Demuro from YouTube are what makes the Wrangler unique and desirable. It's the only SUV still available with a solid axle. It's the only one that has a folding windshield. One of only 2 that has a removable top. The body on frame construction makes it heavy, but rugged. The recirculating ball steering has a heavy feel and combined with the sfa can have rough handling and steering problems compared to IFS. But it's much stronger and easier to modify for improved performance off road. The problems that most people complain about, are part and parcel with the attributes that make the Wrangler such a desirable vehicle to people who want to use their Jeep off road on the trails. But it makes it a bad choice for a daily commute vehicle if you don't intend to ever go wheeling. Especially if you have modified it for larger tires to look cool, but did not consider how that would impact the daily drive.

Rant over. Again, this is just words from a judgmental prick. Feel free to completely ignore me. But maybe, just maybe after reading this you will think about what I wrote and if there is a kernel of truth to it.

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[Terrymo]

Those 12 boxes are full of the bits of her I tossed out - and it was an F450

Make sure you throw the boxes away in 12 different remote locations

 

[Remorseless]

figured thats where OPs mom would go

Whales go on the trailer where they belong

 

[mtbjeep]

And towing a boat trailer with a 3' drop hitch is more efficient too

Makes a great recovery point! I guess it wouldn't matter if you had the Gorilla Glass option

 

[Remorseless]

Make sure you throw the boxes away in 12 different remote locations

12 different enemy's crawl spaces

 

[Chrisbayridge1]

I agree...and I don't agree.

I find it hilarious that people buy a Jeep, then complain incessantly that the Jeep they bought is...well...a Jeep. That said, I do not off-road, but I absolutely did not buy the wrong vehicle (nor were any of my previous Wranglers the wrong vehicle for me). I see nothing wrong with off-roading, in fact it looks like a lot of fun - but truth be told I've got enough expensive time-consuming hobbies as it is. I want a vehicle that I can drive sans doors and roof, and this fits the bill perfectly for me.

It's comforting to know that I can escape a zombie apocalypse through the back country if I need to in my Rubicon

 

[jeepingib]

figured thats where OPs mom would go

No, she prefers her Telluride.

 

[jeepingib]

Whales go on the trailer where they belong

I guess if I start using Pirate4x4 rules, all of them should apply. Glad to see you two boys aren't slacking.

 

[Remorseless]

I guess if I start using Pirate4x4 rules, all of them should apply. Glad to see you two boys aren't slacking.

Nothing personal, once an OP's mom joke is made it's got to be seen through to the end. You understand.

 

[jeepingib]

Nothing personal, once an OP's mom joke is made it's got to be seen through to the end. You understand.

I'd be offended if you didn't put some effort in to it.

 

[Terrymo]

I guess if I start using Pirate4x4 rules, all of them should apply. Glad to see you two boys aren't slacking.

This forum could use a dose of Pirate4x4 now and then

 

[RustyACE]

You can't measure Smiles Per Gallon (SPG), but if you could, my Jeep would be off the charts! It all started when my wife's car broke down, and she "had" to drive my Jeep. Little did I know, that was the beginning of the end for my Jeep ownership. She'd only been a passenger before—and let's just say she wasn’t exactly thrilled about that. But once she got behind the wheel, everything changed. She realized she was a Jeep Girl at heart!

So, we said goodbye to her Nissan Pathfinder (the epitome of a mom car, right?) and hello to her perfect Jeep: a sleek black 2024 RubiX with red trim, black leather seats, and an SOT that she absolutely adores. Her SPG is now through the roof, just like mine!

Naturally, I had to keep up, so I ordered my own 392 LE. That means we’re now a three-Jeep family! We’ve discovered that the journey really is as fun, if not more fun, than the destination itself. Our adventures are now all about finding new trips just so we can go Jeeping with our daughter. It’s been the most fun I've had with a vehicle since my teenage days with my 1988 Suzuki Samurai.

My love for Jeeps began with my first ride in a '76 CJ, top off, wheeling through muck and trails. I've been hooked ever since. OlllllllO

 

[RustyACE]

You can't measure Smiles Per Gallon (SPG), but if you could, my Jeep would be off the charts! It all started when my wife's car broke down, and she "had" to drive my Jeep. Little did I know, that was the beginning of the end for my Jeep ownership. She'd only been a passenger before—and let's just say she wasn’t exactly thrilled about that. But once she got behind the wheel, everything changed. She realized she was a Jeep Girl at heart!

So, we said goodbye to her Nissan Pathfinder (the epitome of a mom car, right?) and hello to her perfect Jeep: a sleek black 2024 RubiX with red trim, black leather seats, and an SOT that she absolutely adores. Her SPG is now through the roof, just like mine!

Naturally, I had to keep up, so I ordered my own 392 LE. That means we’re now a three-Jeep family! We’ve discovered that the journey really is as fun, if not more fun, than the destination itself. Our adventures are now all about finding new trips just so we can go Jeeping with our daughter. It’s been the most fun I've had with a vehicle since my teenage days with my 1988 Suzuki Samurai.

My love for Jeeps began with my first ride in a '76 CJ, top off, wheeling through muck and trails. I've been hooked ever since. OlllllllO

 

[VKSheridan]

Bitching about unfulfilled expectations is a Jeep thing in itself.

We bitch when we can’t climb the boulder strewn canyon, we bitch about Jeep’s stupid attempt at ESS, we bitch about how plastic ducks are an intrusion into our safe space, we bitch about cracking our windshields, we bitch about mall crawlers, angry eyes, tortoise harassing off-roaders and how the 2.0 sounds like an Electrolux. That’s how you know we own the right vehicle, we bitch…..

True Jeep owners live to bitch, that’s why we buy Jeeps. If Jeeps were perfect and did everything that everyone loftily expects, there’d be fewer mods and aftermarket parts sales.

I offer your post as “Exhibit A”. You’re bitching about people who bitch and to make it relevant, you bitch about people bitching about their Jeeps. That’s as common as bitching about sloppy steering mate (damn Jeep owners).

Hell, you even already know you’re gonna trigger someone to bitch about people bitching about people who bitch about their Jeeps….

TLDR: If you ain’t bitchin’, you ain’t Jeepin’

 

[Remorseless]

This forum could use a dose of Pirate4x4 now and then

A lot of these people wouldn't survive there...

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