UAW negotiations

[CT_LFC]

How can anyone support these ridiculous Union Demands? A 32-hour work week but get paid for 40, 40% raise, c'mon man! When they are replaced by robots or the factory moves to another country, they have no to blame but themselves.
Car manufacturing, like airlines is very cyclical, you make money for a while then you lose money for a while. When they lose money, the union isn't offering a pay cut. It takes tremendous capitol to research and develop new cars, if there aren't big profits, there are no jobs.
By the way, the union organizers are flying around in private jets. They are the only ones who get rich from a union.
People need to be reasonable in their expectations.

Some people get big mad when for-profit companies make a profit.

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[TealOxAdv]

Just saw this, it will be interesting to see the union’s take on it.

https://stellantisnegotiations2023....roposal-presented-to-the-uaw/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ

 

[Bayrat]

46% wage increases along with conventional pensions lalalalala... Mostly unskilled labor. Must be the union bosses have squandered the pension funds again. Any time a business increased operating costs, be it wages, taxes, regulations or supply chain cost increases, there is only one ultimate payer, and that is the end user. US!

 

[GrumpyOldVet]

I may or may not have signed up on the UAW Local 12 site as a member for their newsletters. I got this email just a few minutes ago. It looks like Fain is at least going to give his views about it as well. It's worth checking in if you've got nothing else to do. Here are the links to FACEBOOK and YOUTUBE from that screenshot. The last one he did was from Kentucky and the stream was terrbile. Hopefully they've worked out those technical issues for this update.

 

[Goin2drt]

I hope the company tells them to go pound sand. That is ridiculous. Why not just pay them for doing nothing and sitting at home. Next thing people will be on here complaining their base model Wrangler is costing $100k and can’t understand why. People are getting lazier and demanding more for doing less.

 

[Jeep Wick]

I can't fathom telling my employer give me a 20% raise right now and then 5% and really expecting to have a job. Sure fire way to get automated out of a job - and seriously ballsy with AI coming online, human manufacturing days are numbered.

That said, car prices are already absurd and this just makes them worse. The consumer is screwed here.

AI is great, but we still need people to setup the robots and repair them.

 

[lowmpg]

AI is great, but we still need people to setup the robots and repair them.

Those aren’t the folks bitching about a pay increase

 

[runningshoes]

Here's a link to the offer presented a few hours ago;

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/08/ste...rease-to-uaw-days-before-possible-strike.html

Stellantis on Friday offered significant four-year wage increases to its hourly workers represented by the United Auto Workers, as it scrambles to avoid a costly strike.

The automaker’s offer would provide a 14.5% wage increase over the four-year term of the proposed deal for most of Stellantis’s roughly 43,000 UAW-represented hourly workers. Newer, or in-progression, employees would get a 27% boost to their starting wages and a shorter time period — six years, versus eight years under the current deal — to advance to the maximum wage rate.

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