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[pfletcher229648]

Buying a Wrangler is never about good financial sense. We keep our vehicles for 8 to 10 years. I did have a Acura Legend that I kept longer, it was a very trouble free vehicle. If I were you I’d keep the current one and make upgrades that you want and save your money for to see what the next Wrangler iteration holds in store for us. If Stellantis turns out a dog of a next version you can always find a last years model and pull the trigger then.

I too am a sports car enthusiast and

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[Kerney]

That said, taking hit and trading in a perfectly good Jeep for seemingly minor updates seems like a poor financial decision, but sometimes buying a Jeep is a poor financial decision

I probably tend to over analyze big financial decisions, but what is your 22 worth? I'm guessing in the 20s? You've already taken the huge financial hit. Keeping it another 3-4 years it'll be worth 10-15k so a much more reasonable lose/year. Now let's say you bought a new 25 you are back to a much bigger depreciation number for the next 3-4 years.

We all have bad habits so not throwing stones only explaining how I'd look at it.

As far as new model I think there is another mid cycle refresh like the 24 in a year or two and a whole new model is 4-5 years away. There was a rumored upgrade for the 2.0 (hurricane variant) for 26, but nothing moves fast around here.

 

[mixdup]

Yeah, I think what has me thinking about it is the fact that the 4XE, while I love it, is toting around the batteries like a weight around the ankles and worried about dumping a lot of upgrades I want to do (lift, bumpers, some interior stuff, maaaaybe gearing if I keep the 4xe) just to then be on a shorter timeline to selling it than if I had a newer one

That said, I have already taken most of the financial hit even if I haven't realized it in actual cash, and with the mopar extended warranty and hybrid warranty going to 100k miles, and I'm not even halfway there, I'll probably just stick this one out

At the end of the day I do love my Jeep, and the things I want to tweak and upgrade on a 24 or newer really aren't worth the cash it will end up costing

 

[Camaroboi13]

I’m still trying to figure out how you came to the conclusion that you need a regear while on 33s. You’re the first 4xE owner I’ve ever heard who said that.

 

[mixdup]

I’m still trying to figure out how you came to the conclusion that you need a regear while on 33s. You’re the first 4xE owner I’ve ever heard who said that.

It's constantly hunting a lower gear at highway speeds, it was marginal when I was on 275s but when I bumped up one more size it is very pronounced

 

[BigRedRidinHood]

So for a different point of view, I like the 3.6 eTorque, with oil changes at 3,000 miles, oil catch can, 5W30 oil and ESS Eliminator. I think if you do those things you will have no problems with the engine. Owners have reported very few problems with their eTorques. Less money than a 392 for sure. Better gas MPG than a 392. Better handling too due to lower front end weight. Also eTorque adds 90 ft lbs of torque at low RPM. Got to buy one used though as Stellantis went cheap, ditched the system and installed the motorcycle AUX battery to run accessories on engine stop/start mode. I have driven all three engines so this is just my 2 cents.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

So for a different point of view, I like the 3.6 eTorque, with oil changes at 3,000 miles, oil catch can, 5W30 oil and ESS Eliminator. I think if you do those things you will have no problems with the engine. Owners have reported very few problems with their eTorques. Less money than a 392 for sure. Better gas MPG than a 392. Better handling too due to lower front end weight. Also eTorque adds 90 ft lbs of torque at low RPM. Got to buy one used though as Stellantis went cheap, ditched the system and installed the motorcycle AUX battery to run accessories on engine stop/start mode. I have driven all three engines so this is just my 2 cents.

They sold ESS and eTorque at the same time. Then to make matters more confusing, sometimes it was offered, and other times it wasn't. Then there were times when it was just Etorque and no ESS, and vise vesra. Even the 2.0 had it for about a year, then it was permanently dropped from the 2.0.

 

[Camaroboi13]

So for a different point of view, I like the 3.6 eTorque, with oil changes at 3,000 miles, oil catch can, 5W30 oil and ESS Eliminator. I think if you do those things you will have no problems with the engine. Owners have reported very few problems with their eTorques. Less money than a 392 for sure. Better gas MPG than a 392. Better handling too due to lower front end weight. Also eTorque adds 90 ft lbs of torque at low RPM. Got to buy one used though as Stellantis went cheap, ditched the system and installed the motorcycle AUX battery to run accessories on engine stop/start mode. I have driven all three engines so this is just my 2 cents.

I’ve only seen two completely dead bricked Jeeps on the Rubicon trail, and both were eTorque. Take that for what it’s worth.

 

[BigRedRidinHood]

Were they 2.0 or 3.6 etorque? Were they traversing streams? Did they crash the case holding the 48 volt battery on the rocks? So many variables to consider. On this forum the consensus has been pretty trouble free in 3.6 applications. Mine is five years old and has run like a Swiss watch. Maybe I have been lucky but I keep it well maintained

 

[Camaroboi13]

Were they 2.0 or 3.6 etorque? Were they traversing streams? Did they crash the case holding the 48 volt battery on the rocks? So many variables to consider. On this forum the consensus has been pretty trouble free in 3.6 applications. Mine is five years old and has run like a Swiss watch. Maybe I have been lucky but I keep it well maintained

3.6 eTorque, one was wheeled pretty hard the other one was wheeled but meticulously maintained. There’s even a couple videos on YT by WFO where they’ve had to save eTorques off the trail. One of them bought the Jeep new and was never even told it had the eTorque system on it.

 

[gato]

You can buy a Wireless Car Play Adapter for $40 on Amazon. They work well - that is what I use.

If you like your Jeep and it is reliable, has an extended warranty, why would you sell it? The hybrid components have an 8 year factory warranty. The engine/transmission/drivetrain had a 5 year 60K mile warranty, for the interior stuff you have the extended warranty.

I too only keep my vehicles 3-4 years tops, but my Jeeps are the exception because of the mods, so I keep them for 5. I'll be coming up on 5 next March and I'm really considering keeping this one longer - mostly because Jeep has not given me a reason to upgrade. If they offered something with factory 37s (like the Bronco Raptor), I'd upgrade instantly.

You may want to consider light modifications (like Wireless Car Play or even an aftermarket head unit and small lift) to make it to your liking.

 

[BigRedRidinHood]

3.6 eTorque, one was wheeled pretty hard the other one was wheeled but meticulously maintained. There’s even a couple videos on YT by WFO where they’ve had to save eTorques off the trail. One of them bought the Jeep new and was never even told it had the eTorque system on it.

Same with me, I had no idea my Jeep had etorque and had to research the hell out of it to find out why it was so much faster than my JK also with 3.6. I will probably get out when I reach eight years and the 48 volt battery warranty goes.

 

[billjr]

I’ve only seen two completely dead bricked Jeeps on the Rubicon trail, and both were eTorque. Take that for what it’s worth.

That in itself ?? nothing

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