go you have pics of your lod mid width bumper and winch setup. i'm looking at the mid width and full width bumper and cant deiced which one i like. lod and arb are my top 2 choices for bumper right now and trying to figure out which way i want to go.I have a Smittybilt Gen 3 12K with synthetic rope that its sunk down into a LOD mid width bumper. It is a great setup. I have been driving 4X4 vehicles for a long time, I have had a few Warn M8000 winches and they were great I have also had many Smittybilt winches from 8K to 12K and have yet to experience a winch failure. I have had to replace cable that I have damaged but have never had a motor or switch failure.