That's their selling price. If you were to trade it in, Figure 10-15% less on the high end. The real magical number is what a bank will look for (KBB, NADA, etc). Personally, if i have ever bought a used car, I look at comps and book value to negotiate a deal. That's just me though.
Sure, I realize that the trade in value is ~5-7k less. I just use their price as a retail indicator. Carmax is good for finding a reasonably accurate market value.
Not sure why anyone would be thinking they should be getting more for a used vehicle when the standard off the lot depreciation is at least 15-20%, put it this way if you don't want your new vehicle, and need to dump it, people aren't interested in paying a premium for it.
Think so? Based on the Willys, there are plenty of other places and sites that have them listed at much less with comparable features and miles. Carmax is one of the biggest upsellers in the market.
And i get that. However, my issue was when Stellantis issued their stop build and they were trying to move cars off the lot a few months ago, I went looking for a Rubi. Was offered 8-10k under what was owed. This was my own personal experience but others may be different. But if I wanted to trade in my jeep today before the lease was up, I'd be washing almost any discounts given on the new vehicle.
I know based on that price what I could get from them +/- if nothing else. And I know that dealers here will typically honor their quotes. I’ve used their offers before when other dealerships have tried to lowball.
Up until recently the Wrangler was one of if not the best value depreciating vehicle on the market. It usually swapped #1 with the Tacoma depending on the year.
Yep. I've seen a few anecdotal posts from 4xe owners who posted positively awful gas-only (or gas-mostly?) MPG figures. As a fellow 2.0T owner, I knew that the engine is capable of better efficiency. It took me a moment to understand that the presence of the 4xe's battery, when it is effectively dead weight, had a larger effect on fuel mileage than I would've guessed.
I have a family member who's use case for a vehicle would dovetail perfectly with that "Ultra-low mileage lease" offer. She might drive 3.5K miles annually, if that. So, there are folks out there who are able to take advantage of such esoteric arrangements.Was reading this thread and decided to see what my local dealership has other offer.
Looks like a great deal until you reach the part about 5000 miles a year.
My 2021 4xe got ~11 mpg driving cross country. Averaging 75mph or so most of the way. Literally worse than the hemi
On stock tires running back and forth to the outer banks I could get 26 at 70-75 mph. Genuinely no exaggeration.
Incredible the difference there. I was dumbfounded when I saw how bad mine was. This is running purely on ICE, right? No charge? I never even remotely got that high. Running a mix of EV & ICE can dilute that number a lot
There would have been a full charge at the start of the ~270 miles. And driving with an intent to keep mpg as high as possible. Mixed use without charging, I see as low as 21. Of course, mixed use gives you more regen than long distance highway driving. Beach driving I saw 14ish mpg.
Like you people have tried dumping their gas Wrangler after a couple of years and are shocked at the low offers they are getting.
Zero charge, stop and go city at around 15-25 mph I get 14-15 mpg, which is about the same mpg I got with the 3.6s JK/JL Wranglers.
