Swaying/pulling feeling

[TylerV76]

Thanks everyone for the direction. Im going to check torques on everything in the morning, lower the tire pressure and see if I can get an alignment check. I’ll post back what I find.

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[Vinman]

Do have extended swaybar links?

 

[TylerV76]

Do have extended swaybar links?

No I have the Teraflex quick disconnects.

 

[Vinman]

No I have the Teraflex quick disconnects.

Ae they longer to make up for the lift height? What about the rear links?
I had an odd sway feeling which completely disappeared once I installed longer rear swaybar links to make up for the suspension lift.

 

[TylerV76]

Ae they longer to make up for the lift height? What about the rear links?
I had an odd sway feeling which completely disappeared once I installed longer rear swaybar links to make up for the suspension lift.

I honestly cant remember if they were longer than the Mopar lift ones. I know they are rated for a 0-6" lift and are 8.5" long.

Im not sure about the rears. I'll have to see if I can find the length of the OEM's and compare the ones on there.

Edit: Ok according to Quadratic, the Mopar lift links are both 11" front and rear. My Teraflex are 8.5". However I never had this feeling with the 35's and Ive been running that combo for 6 months.

 

[TylerV76]

Check your track bars to make sure they are torqued properly. I had a similar feeling after I installed my suspension lift because factory spec only calls for something stupid low on the track bar. I used steersmarts spec (I think 130?) and no more issues!

How much lift and what’s your caster set at ? I wouldn’t bother trying to get the 1/8” out, you’ll be moving the trac bar a 1/16”. That’s not your issue. Torque could be but not 1/8” off center……

Ok I checked the torque specs on everything I could get to and it seems good there. The only thing I cant get to is the trackbar clamp because my steering stabilizer is blocking the 2 bolts and I cant find the torque values for the Fox tie rod clamp to pull it out of the way.

I lowered the tires to 28psi and this made a HUGE difference. No more floating feeling and swaying feeling. This alone seems to have solved it I think. Im about to go for a long drive to make sure.

I got an alignment check and below are the values. I have a Yeti tie rod and Im understanding my toe is actually ok for that setup. Caster could go up a bit to get closer to 6 but I may leave it for now until I can change to adjustable control arms. What do you think @Roky?

 

[Philly_]

Ok I checked the torque specs on everything I could get to and it seems good there. The only thing I cant get to is the trackbar clamp because my steering stabilizer is blocking the 2 bolts and I cant find the torque values for the Fox tie rod clamp to pull it out of the way.

I lowered the tires to 28psi and this made a HUGE difference. No more floating feeling and swaying feeling. This alone seems to have solved it I think. Im about to go for a long drive to make sure.

I got an alignment check and below are the values. I have a Yeti tie rod and Im understanding my toe is actually ok for that setup. Caster could go up a bit to get closer to 6 but I may leave it for now until I can change to adjustable control arms. What do you think @Roky?

If caster feels good, I would let it be! I run closer to 4 degrees of caster, and to me, it drives like a Jeep! It was more important to me to keep a good pinion angle for the front driveshaft because I have automatic 4WD transfer case and wanted to make sure that functioned properly at speed. At some point, I may play with it to see how far I can push it without driveline vibrations, but I am in no hurry to mess with it.

Can't say much on toe, as I haven't messed with it, but I am sure @Roky will be able to hook you up. ?

 

[Roky]

Ok I checked the torque specs on everything I could get to and it seems good there. The only thing I cant get to is the trackbar clamp because my steering stabilizer is blocking the 2 bolts and I cant find the torque values for the Fox tie rod clamp to pull it out of the way.

I lowered the tires to 28psi and this made a HUGE difference. No more floating feeling and swaying feeling. This alone seems to have solved it I think. Im about to go for a long drive to make sure.

I got an alignment check and below are the values. I have a Yeti tie rod and Im understanding my toe is actually ok for that setup. Caster could go up a bit to get closer to 6 but I may leave it for now until I can change to adjustable control arms. What do you think @Roky?

Toe is off, I like to see it 1/16 th inch toe in…. caster should be in high 5s but if you feel it’s not wandering at highway speeds, then you don’t have to worry over it right now….. How many miles on it ? The camber on driver is out of spec but not critical, sometimes that’s a sign of ball joints going , but you just had all that done, so likely ok……

 

[TylerV76]

Toe is out, I like to see it 1/16 th inch toe in…. caster should be in high 5s but if you feel it’s not wandering at highway speeds, then you don’t have to worry over it right now….. How many miles on it ? The camber on driver is out of spec but not critical, sometimes that’s a sign of ball joints going , but you just had all that done, so likely ok……

The jeeps got 30k miles but the axles and all have 13k. The steering components are all new.

It feels pretty good as is but I may let them bring the toe in and get the caster up to 5.5 and see how it feels. I just got done driving all over and at 72mph on the highway, I can let go of the wheel for at least 15-20 seconds and it doesnt budge. Didnt try going longer.

Anything I can do about the camber?

 

[Roky]

The jeeps got 30k miles but the axles and all have 13k. The steering components are all new.

It feels pretty good as is but I may let them bring the toe in and get the caster up to 5.5 and see how it feels. I just got done driving all over and at 72mph on the highway, I can let go of the wheel for at least 15-20 seconds and it doesnt budge. Didnt try going longer.

Anything I can do about the camber?

Is knuckles and ball joints all that new, or did they come on your axle and also have 13k on them ?

 

[TylerV76]

Is knuckles and ball joints all that new, or did they come on your axle and also have 13k on them ?

Came on the axles and have somewhere 13k or less on them. Reid knuckles, dynatrack ball joints.

 

[Roky]

The jeeps got 30k miles but the axles and all have 13k. The steering components are all new.

It feels pretty good as is but I may let them bring the toe in and get the caster up to 5.5 and see how it feels. I just got done driving all over and at 72mph on the highway, I can let go of the wheel for at least 15-20 seconds and it doesnt budge. Didnt try going longer.

Anything I can do about the camber?

Yeah they make inserts of different thicknesses, but I don’t think I’d go that route, if it’s driving that good, I’d roll with it for now, enjoy it…..it’s so close to being inspec, it’s possible that’it’s human error,

 

[TylerV76]

Yeah they make inserts of different thicknesses, but I don’t think I’d go that route, if it’s driving that good, I’d roll with it for now, enjoy it…..it’s so close to being inspec, it’s possible that’it’s human error,

Ok sounds good. Thank you for the help. Really appreciate it. You also @Philly_

 

[Roky]

Came on the axles and have somewhere 13k or less on them. Reid knuckles, dynatrack ball joints.

Did you check torque in the ball joints ?

 

[TylerV76]

Did you check torque in the ball joints ?

Yeah. Upper I torqued at 55 and I wanna say lower I did at 33. I probably should see though if that changes with the reids.

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