Strike Four, You're OUT

[Bandit59]

Same here, my 2019 Ram only went two years on the factory Battery.

Mine went 26 months. Got one from Oreillys it lasted 2 1/2 years. Got a 2020 Ram still has oringnal battery. So you never know

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[MK212MX]

Um. No.

You have the legal right to have any ASE certified mechanic do warranty repairs.

The aftermarket warranty company can't force you to take it to any particular shop.

Factory warranty can be performed at any authorized factory service center, i.e. dealership. They can't force you to a particular dealership.

I literally just read the T&C on my extended warranty. It specifically states the warranty company has the right to relocate your covered vehicle at their discretion for a covered repair. I'm sure they are all different but that is what mine states. So yes.

 

[grimmjeeper]

I literally just read the T&C on my extended warranty. It specifically states the warranty company has the right to relocate your covered vehicle at their discretion for a covered repair. I'm sure they are all different but that is what mine states. So yes.

They can try to put it in their T&C but there's a lot of legal precedence making those clauses invalid.

 

[BLS65]

So you would willing give up the standard warranty, and the extended warranty you paid extra for?

Pulling a fuse and the negative cable off the aux. will not void any warranty. The Manufaturer would have to prove that the part and /or change caused the failure. so, if your transmission went out they could not void it's warranty over a Battery change. The only thing in jeopardy would be the Battery warranty itself.

 

[BLS65]

Glass half full ?

Actually it does fix the issue... not just limp you along(bandaid).

Is it ideal we have to do it ? No
Should the manufacturer "fix" the issue ? Yes

IMO... to find the answers and fill in the blanks, we really need to find out why some people burn through 6 batteries and yet there are OG members here still using the original batteries.

I have a hunch that a good deal can be tracked to usage.....or lack thereof. It would be interesting to see a poll on how many with battery issues are daily drivers and how many are second vehicles. exercising the batteries may be part of the puzzle.

 

[Mguy]

Pulling a fuse and the negative cable off the aux. will not void any warranty. The Manufaturer would have to prove that the part and /or change caused the failure. so, if your transmission went out they could not void it's warranty over a Battery change. The only thing in jeopardy would be the Battery warranty itself.

"Every owner has a different risk tolerance for mods and warranty work, and a different dealer pain threshold. It all goes in the mix."

Some will sell their Jeeps after the manufacturer warranty ends. Or then do the mod, or not, because of an extended service plan. Some don't mind pushing the ESS button and using an external charger. There's no right way for everyone, and some will insist upon making decisions based solely upon lousy internet advice.

 

[Mguy]

I have a hunch that a good deal can be tracked to usage.....or lack thereof. It would be interesting to see a poll on how many with battery issues are daily drivers and how many are second vehicles. exercising the batteries may be part of the puzzle.

I'm curious if your hunch is right, but then many Jeeps with the quick and easy negative/F42 fix will be proved ready for warranty work. If the fix was shown done on a certain date, and the failure taken in for warranty work occurred months/years later . . . .

It really is a personal decision on what mods to do, or when to do them.

I know of no lead acid batteries that benefit from "exercising" or use. They all deteriorate, to some extent, from any load, and from just sitting. The key for lead acid performance, especially AGMs, is correct charging to full capacity promptly after each use. AGMs are particularly vulnerable to so called "walk down" if not properly maintained.

 

[MK212MX]

Pulling a fuse and the negative cable off the aux. will not void any warranty. The Manufaturer would have to prove that the part and /or change caused the failure. so, if your transmission went out they could not void it's warranty over a Battery change. The only thing in jeopardy would be the Battery warranty itself.

Correct which is the problem with the Jeep. So why would he modify it and lose the warranty for the system that is failing? Don't think for a second the dealer wouldn't blame that if there was something else causing the no start in the electrical system.

 

[2nd 392]

I'll never understand the "swan song" post. Ffs, just go if you're going...

Roy didn’t give up on Jeep ?

He fixed Nelly when she broke ?

 

[Mudduck]

No idea what my battery longevity has to do with a clutch but . You sound triggered.

Dont worry about it....

apparently after 75 years as a company Toyota still doesn't know how to make a truck slow down at a stop light.... Didn't Toyota just recall 380K 2022 pickups?

 

[SargeDiesel]

I have a hunch that a good deal can be tracked to usage.....or lack thereof. It would be interesting to see a poll on how many with battery issues are daily drivers and how many are second vehicles. exercising the batteries may be part of the puzzle.

I thought this to. But I might be the exception.

I picked my JTRD up in December of 21... its a 22 year model. Currently I only have 8k miles.... not daily driven.. once ,twice a week. Almost all of my trips are very short... less than 10/15 miles... just local.

The only thing I can think... I have an ESS eliminator and I leave it in the off position, so I never use auto stop. I do however, every so often, when I know I'm going on a longer trip, re-engage the ESS. I usually get a msg " auto start/stop not ready... " charging". I leave it charging until it says its ready. I then turn it back off and repeat as necessary.

So far, I've not had any issue with my Batry.... ( I just didn't want to say the whole word, I didn't want to jinx myself..lol)

 

[azjl#3]

To reverse bypass the aux, you put the fuse and negative cable back to where they were before, then you can bring the Jeep to the dealer and they will have no clue it was ever bypassed.

You can take your Jeep to ANY mechanic and it will not void the warranty. You are not tied to the Jeep dealer just because you have a warranty.

Anyone buying a vehicle should do their research. It takes all of 5 minutes to read the most common issue with these Jeeps are with batteries. Considering that, and the fact OP didn’t try any other fix, I feel bad but only to an extent.

So, settle down Nancy.

This, is the definition of NOT fixing it, having to remove it to take it in for repair. Sure it works, thats called a work around, not a repair.

 

[Punkn89]

This, is the definition of NOT fixing it, having to remove it to take it in for repair. Sure it works, thats called a work around, not a repair.

Agree to disagree, haven’t had any battery issues since bypassing aux for almost 3 years now. I’d rather do that than have a motorcycle battery that lasts less than a year and ends up draining the main. If it works that long without using an aux, that is a fix in my book.

The system Jeep put in place is ?. Many other vehicles do not use a two battery method and do just fine. Their “fix” is to check the battery voltage and or replace the battery and hope for the best. When Jeep “fixes” their own system, I’ll reconsider.

What is the point of taking it to the same dealership to have them continue implementing the same “fix” if it doesn’t work. Then, to throw your hat in and say you’re done without having another mechanic or someone more Mechanically inclined check it out.

I couldn’t care less about a warranty or saving money if it means not having dumbasses touch under the hood of my vehicle.

 

[SargeDiesel]

This is the way. If you never use ESS the battery will easily last the expected 3-5 years. If you're using SS you're lucky to get 2 years out of them. I try to tell people that any fuel savings they might get over the years is immediately outpaced by having to replace the batteries so often; especially if you're paying the dealer to replace them.

AGM batteries hate being discharged. Get one completely flat and it's almost guaranteed to never hold a charge again. They're designed to start the vehicle and then sit at essentially full capacity 99% of their life. Instead you're sitting at a red light for 2 minutes running all the electronics 5-10 times every drive cycle. The aux begins to fail due to this as it's significantly smaller at 200CCA, then the aux begins to kill off the primary since they're always connected to each other while the vehicle sits. They just don't hold up.

This has been my experience. So far so good.... 2021 batteries.

 

[JLfromCA]

Dont worry about it....

apparently after 75 years as a company Toyota still doesn't know how to make a truck slow down at a stop light.... Didn't Toyota just recall 380K 2022 pickups?

They also just discovered rear disc brakes finally on the 24 taco. ??

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