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OK then, how many deaths?
Rudolph, you just don’t get it......

see, Jeeps and, in fact, all solid front axle vehicles, are Inherently deadly and should be banned. Actual road data over decades doesn’t matter. Educated consumers don’t matter. Google searches and YouTube don’t matter. None of it matters. Jeeps should be banned because, apparently, a hypothetical woman “sally”, “mom”, or “sis” (always a women.... sexist much?) may get scared and have an accident.
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OK then, how many deaths?
How would we know? Do we ask the dead people what caused them to crash?

I didn't come up with this term - 775,000 webpages refer to it as "death wobble". There are numerous threads and 15,000+ views of the subject on this forum alone.

Why are YOU here talking about it if it's no big deal?
 

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How would we know? Do we ask the dead people what caused them to crash?

I didn't come up with this term - 775,000 webpages refer to it as "death wobble". There are numerous threads and 15,000+ views of the subject on this forum alone.

Why are YOU here talking about it if it's no big deal?
Well I assumed that as you’re making assertions about deaths you would have some data to back it up or otherwise it just looks like unsubstantiated sensationalism. Clearly I was wrong.
 

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Rudolph, you just don’t get it......

see, Jeeps and, in fact, all solid front axle vehicles, are Inherently deadly and should be banned. Actual road data over decades doesn’t matter. Educated consumers don’t matter. Google searches and YouTube don’t matter. None of it matters. Jeeps should be banned because, apparently, a hypothetical woman “sally”, “mom”, or “sis” (always a women.... sexist much?) may get scared and have an accident.
I drove a solid front axle pickup truck for 20 years. Never once experienced any sort of "death wobble".
 

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Well I assumed that as you’re making assertions about deaths you would have some data to back it up or otherwise it just looks like unsubstantiated sensationalism. Clearly I was wrong.
So are you saying there is an acceptable number?

Again, why are YOU here talking about it?
 

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I drove a solid front axle pickup truck for 20 years. Never once experienced any sort of "death wobble".
And I personally know several men and women who have owned nothing but Jeep wranglers for decades and haven’t experienced it either. So, I guess that we just proved that wranglers and all solid front axle vehicles shouldn’t be banned as you previously suggested?
 

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And I personally know several men and women who have owned nothing but Jeep wranglers for decades and haven’t experienced it either. So, I guess that we just proved that wranglers and all solid front axle vehicles shouldn’t be banned as you previously suggested?
#1) I didn't suggest banning all solid front axles vehicles
#2) Again, if it's not a big deal then why are there 3/4 million webpages talking about it?
 

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#1) I didn't suggest banning all solid front axles vehicles
#2) Again, if it's not a big deal then why are there 3/4 million webpages talking about it?
There are 5.7 billion web pages about cats. Why so many if cats aren’t a problem?
There are 108m pages for the search term “people killed by cats”. Wow, there must be a problem with cats.
 

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There are 5.7 billion web pages about cats. Why so many if cats aren’t a problem?
There are 108m pages for the search term “people killed by cats”. Wow, there must be a problem with cats.
Still haven't answered my question - why are YOU here talking about this "non-problem"?
 

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Still haven't answered MY question - why are YOU here talking about this "non-problem"?
We’re all free to talk about whatever we like, within reason, that’s what a forum is for. We’re also free to make sensational and lurid claims but do so at the risk of looking foolish if we can’t substantiate them.
 

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Still haven't answered my question - why are YOU here talking about this "non-problem"?
What problem?

I’m talking about cats killing people. It’s all over the web. Scary.
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