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Hi, this is a common question...should I regear or not? So the short answer for me is "most definitely YES".

Firstly you can look at every chart and "arm-chair" recommendation, pretend that the auto 8-speed trans will always be able to hide incorrect gearing performance, or you can talk/listen to those who have made the upgrade and experienced the difference.

I don't want to start a battle as there are plenty of comments for and against on other posts, but in short, you will see a huge improvement in performance and driving experience. In my mind I put a gear change as item #3 in my mod list. After deciding what environment you'll spend most of your time in (highway, trails or climbing something) then decide on #1 - a lift or no lift, #2 - size of tires and then (based on #1 and #2), do #3 - get a gear swap (money very well spent). All the other "bolt-ons" can be added later to enhance your Jeeping experience.

Myself, I have a JL/3.6/auto, 3.5" lift, 37's and 4:88's. It's perfect for where I now live (20' above sea level and a road trip to the trails). If I were at higher elevations or had more challenging trails I would have gone 5:13's - period (an easy decision). My last two Wranglers (JK's before the JL) both had gear changes and it was the best spend that I made on them.

For me, again dependent upon your environment and intended use - for 35" tires either 4:56 (probably best per your comments) or 4:88"s. For 37" tires, either 4:88's or 5:13. Through my years of mods, I haven't heard of anyone complaining about their gear change except that maybe they wish they'd gone up a set (numerically higher but lower gears - 5:13's instead of 4:88's).

To help a little more, if you decide to "build" a Wrangler look what Jeep is now offering - with the XR / 35" tire option you can select 4:56 with the auto or 4:88's with the six speed. There is a reason and makes for an easy decision if the manufacturer is offering the gear change...!

Finally, if you're worried about the factory warranty, then you're best to stay "stock" until it expires because you have a greater than 50% chance that any fix from the dealer will be denied. For myself, life is too short, so 1 month after purchase the lift went on and gears were changed. Experience is so much more fun than reading about it...!!
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Hi, this is a common question...should I regear or not? So the short answer for me is "most definitely YES".

Firstly you can look at every chart and "arm-chair" recommendation, pretend that the auto 8-speed trans will always be able to hide incorrect gearing performance, or you can talk/listen to those who have made the upgrade and experienced the difference.

I don't want to start a battle as there are plenty of comments for and against on other posts, but in short, you will see a huge improvement in performance and driving experience. In my mind I put a gear change as item #3 in my mod list. After deciding what environment you'll spend most of your time in (highway, trails or climbing something) then decide on #1 - a lift or no lift, #2 - size of tires and then (based on #1 and #2), do #3 - get a gear swap (money very well spent). All the other "bolt-ons" can be added later to enhance your Jeeping experience.

Myself, I have a JL/3.6/auto, 3.5" lift, 37's and 4:88's. It's perfect for where I now live (20' above sea level and a road trip to the trails). If I were at higher elevations or had more challenging trails I would have gone 5:13's - period (an easy decision). My last two Wranglers (JK's before the JL) both had gear changes and it was the best spend that I made on them.

For me, again dependent upon your environment and intended use - for 35" tires either 4:56 (probably best per your comments) or 4:88"s. For 37" tires, either 4:88's or 5:13. Through my years of mods, I haven't heard of anyone complaining about their gear change except that maybe they wish they'd gone up a set (numerically higher but lower gears - 5:13's instead of 4:88's).

To help a little more, if you decide to "build" a Wrangler look what Jeep is now offering - with the XR / 35" tire option you can select 4:56 with the auto or 4:88's with the six speed. There is a reason and makes for an easy decision if the manufacturer is offering the gear change...!

Finally, if you're worried about the factory warranty, then you're best to stay "stock" until it expires because you have a greater than 50% chance that any fix from the dealer will be denied. For myself, life is too short, so 1 month after purchase the lift went on and gears were changed. Experience is so much more fun than reading about it...!!
Thanks for the explanation, no warranty issues for me, bought it so I could work on it, put lift and tires on right away for function as well as looks. Added rails so my 5' 2" bride could get in. If I had a Rubi, I might go to 4.88, but I think 4.56 will do what I need and maybe keep me from hammering the lighter duty axels too hard. I appreciate the help.
 

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Myself, I have a JL/3.6/auto, 3.5" lift, 37's and 4:88's. It's perfect for where I now live (20' above sea level and a road trip to the trails). If I were at higher elevations or had more challenging trails I would have gone 5:13's - period (an easy decision).
I have the same setup except I have 5.13s (now). I did the full gamut:

33's + 4.10s
35's + 4.10s
35's + 4.88s
37's + 4.88s
37's + 5.13s

I re-geared from 4.88 to 5.13 when I moved to 7000' elevation.

To re-gear or not re-gear is always a topic of spirited conversation, but the sad part (as you mentioned) is there is far too much "arm chair re-gearing" done versus actually doing it and experiencing it.

There is no comparison...
 
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Well, I 'm convinced, re-gearing it is! Now to find a local shop I can trust. I don't know if I can get it done before Memorial day, going to be taking the jeep on a road trip and I don't know that I can get install and break in done prior to that. Have a great shop a little over an hour away, but they are booked pretty solid. Thanks for all the info and help.
 

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I am not going to be doing any real crawling, mainly fire and forest service roads in Nor-Cal. Live pretty much as sea level, trails around 5,000 ft. The jeep is a weekend toy, not a daily. Have to drive a couple of hours to get to some decent trails.
I'll state the unpopular opinion. The primary purpose of your jeep is exactly where you likely WON'T notice the regear. Fire and forest service roads, hanging between 2nd and 5th gear the whole time. I believe the biggest place you'll notice anything is the trip to and from trailheads. I'd spend my money elsewhere.
:ontheloo::bandit::headbang:

EDIT: Full disclosure, I have an XR with 4:56 from factory, plan on going to 37s, bigger someday, and will absolutely regear lol
 

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Well, I 'm convinced, re-gearing it is! Now to find a local shop I can trust. I don't know if I can get it done before Memorial day, going to be taking the jeep on a road trip and I don't know that I can get install and break in done prior to that. Have a great shop a little over an hour away, but they are booked pretty solid. Thanks for all the info and help.
Too bad you are not near @chevymitchell...he is the man when it comes to re-gearing!
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