No Reason Here For LED Lights

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Drove our 2023 JLU in the dark last night for the first time. I ordered the Wrangler without the LED lighting. No regrets, the factory halogens light up the road just fine. If you don't over drive your headlights like you were supposed to be taught in drivers education, you will have no issues seeing what is necessary in front, or to the side of you. Also living in a snowy State, I don't have issues with snow/ice building up on the lights. I have been driving for over 45 years, and never had an issue driving at night without the aid of LED lighting. I spent the $1200.00 Jeep would have charged me for factory LEDs, and bought lots of accessories I actually got use out of. When it comes to off-roading, that's a different scenerio than normal street driving, which is all I do.

How much other modern technology do you complain about?

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[Tncdrew]

I've had mostly halogens in my years of driving. Then came an '02 325i, and an '09 Miata that both had factory bi-zenon headlights. Huge improvement, but they don't do those any more.
Currently have a '22 F-350 with halogens, and a '22 Willys with LED.
Gotta say, with my old eyes at night, the halogens in the truck are definitely dimmer.

 

[NicoBravo]

Besides being better for visibility at night, to me, the LED headlights lights look better both day and night (along with the LED DRLs). Personally, I’m glad I spent the extra cash...

 

[azjl#3]

How much other modern technology do you complain about?

I was thinking he must really enjoy his Cathode Ray TV.

Seriously, glad you are happy with Hgen, but LED is far superior. I live in Elk land, a threat above deer world, hit one of those, you can easily be killed, not just wrecked.

Full disclosure, my 2006 GMC has halogens that are equivalent to the jeeps 2023 LEDs, imo. I think the fact they are mounted a good foot higher makes a big difference.

 

[cosine]

first thing i did when i got my jl was to replace the halogen headlight and fog lights bulb with led supernova sv4 from headlight revolution. the best $$$ spent and cheaper than $1100 led option from jeep at the time.

 

[roaniecowpony]

I adjusted mine yesterday, they're perfect now. I didn't get flashed at all, even a little rice burner went by and didn't flash me. ?

What bulbs?

 

[Flip]

What bulbs?

Lasfit

 

[roaniecowpony]

first thing i did when i got my jl was to replace the halogen headlight and fog lights bulb with led supernova sv4 from headlight revolution. the best $$$ spent and cheaper than $1100 led option from jeep at the time.

Just to be clear, Headlight Revolution doesn't sell the Supernova V.4.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

Drove our 2023 JLU in the dark last night for the first time. I ordered the Wrangler without the LED lighting. No regrets, the factory halogens light up the road just fine. If you don't over drive your headlights like you were supposed to be taught in drivers education, you will have no issues seeing what is necessary in front, or to the side of you. Also living in a snowy State, I don't have issues with snow/ice building up on the lights. I have been driving for over 45 years, and never had an issue driving at night without the aid of LED lighting. I spent the $1200.00 Jeep would have charged me for factory LEDs, and bought lots of accessories I actually got use out of. When it comes to off-roading, that's a different scenerio than normal street driving, which is all I do.

Yeah I always found that my factory halogens were plenty bright. However I like to blind oncoming traffic on these dark country roads at 3:00 a.m. when I'm driving to work, so that's actually why I upgraded to aftermarket LED bulbs.

I actually have been meaning to focus them up a little higher so that I can really stick it to oncoming traffic good!!

I'm joking, I actually need to focus them down because right now while I do like the visibility the LED bulbs I have in there give at their current height, the second I hit my high beams, it's pointing at the moon. Need a tip down the lights so the high beams are actually functional. I'm driving on the road, not in the sky.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

Also too if we're talking about brightness of LEDs, you have to take into account how much wattage the factory harness will provide to LED headlights. Just because they sell them and say they will produce so many lumens, doesn't mean the Wrangler is capable of reaching that number.

You need to go in and look at the LED chip stats and see how many lumens the LED chip produces per watt of electricity.

A lot of these LED bulbs out there say they will produce 180,000 lumens as a pair at 360 watts, but the Wrangler can only provide 90 Watts I believe, so just certain extent it doesn't matter which LED bulb you get they will all be maxed out at about the same point. The real difference becomes those chips in each bulb, and how much lumens they produce per watt. Cuz that's the end of the day you might only get an extra couple hundred lumens out of a better quality chip. But it kind of becomes a wash to a certain extent.

I don't know, just my two cents from years of LED purchases and research.

 

[jellis4148]

Based off his post and how good of a driver he is. I’m surprised he didn’t order one with no power steering, power brakes, and drums all the way around. It doesn’t matter how you were taught to drive, or even how good of a driver you are. Having an option that makes you safer is not a waste of money. What’s wrong with wanting to have brighter lights that shine further? If you don’t want them, that is fine, but the aren’t a waste of money.

 

[cosine]

Just to be clear, Headlight Revolution doesn't sell the Supernova V.4.

got them directly from headlight revolution. so i'm good.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

This is a very crude and generalized example of what I'm talking about, but quality of the LED chip is the most important thing when purchasing a LED headlight, at least when talking about brightness produced.

And then there's Chip On Board LEDs:

Basically there's a whole lot more to the headlights we are buying than the data they are providing us. A lot of companies won't tell you the specific chips they are using nor the lumens produced.

Using Lasfit as an example:

 

[jbcrane]

Drove our 2023 JLU in the dark last night for the first time. I ordered the Wrangler without the LED lighting. No regrets, the factory halogens light up the road just fine. If you don't over drive your headlights like you were supposed to be taught in drivers education, you will have no issues seeing what is necessary in front, or to the side of you. Also living in a snowy State, I don't have issues with snow/ice building up on the lights. I have been driving for over 45 years, and never had an issue driving at night without the aid of LED lighting. I spent the $1200.00 Jeep would have charged me for factory LEDs, and bought lots of accessories I actually got use out of. When it comes to off-roading, that's a different scenerio than normal street driving, which is all I do.

Glad you have what works best for you. I have an extra set of factory halogens, pulled out when swapping for LED's, I'll sell you cheap. Seriously. Among other disadvantages, halogens will need to be replaced sooner. One thing the halogens have that I miss in the LED's is the little Jeep grill icon in the center.

 

[Bocephus]

I might sell my jeep bc the LEDs provide way too much non-essential visibility.
I could have spent that 1200 on chikee nuggies.

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