Mopar Intake Vents

[Betty2020]

Check out OTB design and fab. They have a kit that opens up the Rubicon hood scoops and drains the water in the factory location

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[zouch]

i’m curious if that’s reversible to support the Diesels that have the intake on the left,..?

Can we get pics of the underside of the hood?

 

[Whaler27]

Do you have the cold air intake that goes with them? If so, that forces cold air directly into the CAI while the other side takes out heat from the engine bay.

Yes, I have it, but I don’t think there’s any actual benefit that can be measured in improved power or fuel economy. It just sounds a little louder and looks kinda cool..

 

[TOTL Innovations]

i’m curious if that’s reversible to support the Diesels that have the intake on the left,..?

But you arent demanding performance data on this product?

 

[TrailScooter]

i’m curious if that’s reversible to support the Diesels that have the intake on the left,..?

I just have added under hood heat due to a supercharger. The Intake probably would give me an added perception of performance, at least.

 

[YBABRAT]

I posted in another thread about heat. I did the ultimate air flow mod... the big 3! Fully opened up the Rubicon hood vents and removed the hood potato chip, moved the horns to a better location and removed the grill inserts. This created the best engine cooling, but killed MPG.

At 60°F on 25 minute highway run... engine temp is 180°F, oil temp is 173°F and ZF8 is at 165°F. But not constant due to varying load conditions. Everything will vary about +/-2°F roughly randomly.

MPG will take a hit of 1 to 2MPG on average in temps below 65°F. 45°F and below is worst for MPG.

Reinstalling hood potato chip with cutouts for opened up Rubicon vents. At this time I reinstalled the grill inserts. 2024 and on up inserts are a gimmick. NO ADDED COOLING!

The fallback is a compromise to maintain factory operational engine temps in cooler climates.

Thinking of doing a opened / closed Semi tractor radiator baffle setup for winter mountain conditions to adjust engine temps for optimal operation.

Also a Gladiator fan for desert and summer rock crawling.

 

[zouch]

was wondering how long it would be before you showed up here!

a- doesn't really matter if it's not an available option for the diesels.
b- it should make a difference (based on the same premise on which you base the alleged benefits from your hood).
how much difference either makes in real life on the road remains unproven.

But you arent [sic] demanding performance data on this product?

 

[TOTL Innovations]

was wondering how long it would be before you showed up here!

a- doesn't really matter if it's not an available option for the diesels.
b- it should make a difference (based on the same premise on which you base the alleged benefits from your hood).
how much difference either makes in real life on the road remains unproven.

Nothing is alleged. We presented all the data we have as openly as possible. Its just not at the mph that you want for the reason we stated. I dont see any other manufacturer even sharing a fraction of what we did.

The principle is the same but the path of airflow with these S&B scoops as well as the size of the inlet is drastically different from ours. The location and size of the heat evacuating vents are also not the same. We just expected you to ask for the same testing data that you requested of us.

And we do have a version for the diesel

https://totlinnovations.com/h-e-r-o-hood-performance-testing/

 

[ym0bc1]

engine is cooled down by coolant, not through air. The efficiency on air vent cooling is extremely low.

Aside from the looks, I'm wondering how much would these vents adding to the cooling? maybe 0.1%?

 

[zouch]

we've been over all of this.

you shared testing results for speeds that aren't even half of what people travel on the highway and not where most people are seeing overheat issues. that's not terribly helpful, especially as airflow over a vehicle changes with speeds. (some pieces of yarn taped to the hood as 'tattletales' will make this evident if you're not already aware of it.) that's why i say how much difference either makes in real life on the road remains unproven.

and you have no idea what i have asked them for,.. but (again) it's not relevant if they don't make it for my application.

do the simple on-road testing at actual speeds that we've already discussed and you'll have something worth talking about.

Nothing is alleged. We presented all the data we have as openly as possible. Its just not at the mph that you want for the reason we stated. I dont see any other manufacturer even sharing a fraction of what we did.

The principle is the same but the path of airflow with these S&B scoops as well as the size of the inlet is drastically different from ours. The location and size of the heat evacuating vents are also not the same. We just expected you to ask for the same testing data that you requested of us.

And we do have a version for the diesel

https://totlinnovations.com/h-e-r-o-hood-performance-testing/

 

[TOTL Innovations]

and you have no idea what i have asked them for,.. but (again) it's not relevant if they don't make it for my application.

I dont but I bet if they had the data you request of us, it would have been made public by now.

All I am asking is why doesnt it feel like you are an equal opportunity skeptic? Any time we post, you are first in line to negate anything we say but in this thread you dont even raise the question on whether this product would actually work (regardless of its availability for the diesel). Just doesnt feel fair.

 

[zouch]

i can't help how you feel.
i'm approaching anything available with the same interest. if it's not available for my application, it's not relevant, and i'm not interested.

(to keep it in scope, let's not ignore the fact that your product costs many times more than the item of topic here. but FWIW, personally, i still like the look of your hoods better.)

you seem to be pretty selective about what you remember me saying, and dang sensitive about straightforward questions related to a product in the Kilobuck range. your product isn't inexpensive; you should expect some questions.
do you not remember my saying that (even barring the cost) i'd be first in line if you could prove your product actually works at Real-Life speed/load? i may have missed it, but i just haven't seen any proof shared yet that represents Real Life use.

i don't know if you're just sensitive because the time/money/energy you put into your 'testing' wasn't particularly useful/persuasive, but dang, the way you're acting could be enough to dissuade customers even if you *could* prove it works! just relax.
and/or, do something like the simple on-road real-life testing that was already suggested. it won't feel 'laboratory', and might not give you any pretty pictures (which i did enjoy! ), but would be a lot closer to simulating the problem people are trying to solve.

or, continue to haunt me around the board and whine whenever you see me make a mention of anything that might be considered related; whichever you think will suit you better.

I dont but I bet if they had the data you request of us, it would have been made public by now.

All I am asking is why doesnt it feel like you are an equal opportunity skeptic? Any time we post, you are first in line to negate anything we say but in this thread you dont even raise the question on whether this product would actually work (regardless of its availability for the diesel). Just doesnt feel fair.

 

[Mudduck]

I have the MOTOBILT hood vents. I like raw aluminum stuff.. And they have the pans that bolt up underneath the hood to keep shit from getting on other shit when it rains.

 

[Mudduck]

If you 2 guys could please leave each other alone, that would be amazing. No lie, I love watching the shit show on occasion, mostly because it’s entertaining…. But this isn’t even funny, its just petty.

 

[mgroeger]

Yes, how hard it is to install?
The instruction is not 100% clear and I only got after I found 2 videos.
Those videos were actually hard to find and it looks like a hit and miss cutting the inner hood carpet thing.
Of the little number of youtube videos I thought that this product might not be worth it.
Also not many posts on them here.

but it looks like what I was thinking should be in those vents from factory. Sitting idling on a trail figuring out the best line creates a lot of heat in the Georgia summer and the fan is constantly blowing. Even on my 2.0 Turbo.

What are your experiences installing and operating them?

Thanks,
Mike

I'm in same boat as you but live in southern UT. Initially I cut the liner which was very easy and you don't need to be precise it's just a big piece of crappy insulation. Then the other day I was like F it I don't even need that liner and all it does is help trap heat, so I ripped the whole liner out as others have done. I mean WTH these liners didn't exist on cars years ago. I also took the engine cover off because all that does is trap heat against the engine and once again... never done yeas ago and there are also Jeeps that don't have the cover because of supplier issues. It's all to make it look pretty under the hood and dampen "noise".
Now you have access (whether you cut holes or remove liner) to pop the vents out. Then take a dremel tool and cut the back plate of the vent off. Reinstall the vent and I used HVAC silver backed tape to help hold them in place. Did both sides with zero issues. I run through a car wash every week or two and have been in rain and snow storms with zero issues.
I can see the heat escaping when I am at a stop light or on the trail.
I also have after market liners so I popped those out on the driver's side and found all the lines that run near the turbo that have crappy comical insulation on them and added this to them...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BLSZ86V4
I also wrapped the coolant tank by the turbo with this stuff to help protect it. And lastly I snagged the grill inserts from a gladiator and installed them on my Jeep. They are considerably larger and now come standard on all models. I can off road with A/C blasting in 100+ temps in direct sun and the engine runs at perfect temp.

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