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Point out the issue, tell me where you think I was wrong. The one time from 3 years ago? I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, but that was widely accepted as you being wrong, and not being able to accept it. First of many times you were called out.
I TOLD YOU WHAT I SAW!!!! THAT'S IT!!!!

I shared something I learned, and you took it like I was insulting your mother. It's insane. Furthermore, you went off complaining "I had no proof" and I was "factually wrong" but YOU HAVE NO IDEA YOURSELF!!!!

How you can't see how ridiculous your crusade is is unfathomable to me, but that's why I say we need to drop it. I'm not going to "concede" that something I witnessed myself was wrong. I know what I saw. So you need to just move on.
 

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I'm kind of really enjoying watching Kevin tell Dusty that they don't agree and need to drop it, but, oh by the way, Dusty's wrong anyway.

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I TOLD YOU WHAT I SAW!!!! THAT'S IT!!!!

I shared something I learned, and you took it like I was insulting your mother. It's insane. Furthermore, you went off complaining "I had no proof" and I was "factually wrong" but YOU HAVE NO IDEA YOURSELF!!!!

How you can't see how ridiculous your crusade is is unfathomable to me, but that's why I say we need to drop it. I'm not going to "concede" that something I witnessed myself was wrong. I know what I saw. So you need to just move on.
So that one time is what you are trying to say I was wrong about? I'm not even the one who keeps bringing it up anymore. It's being used by other people to point out your inability to man up and own your mistakes.
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So that one time is what you are trying to say I was wrong about? I'm not even the one who keeps bringing it up anymore. It's being used by other people to point out your inability to man up and own your mistakes.
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You might want to be careful this is getting dangerously close to elder abuse
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So that one time is what you are trying to say I was wrong about? I'm not even the one who keeps bringing it up anymore. It's being used by other people to point out your inability to man up and own your mistakes.
I don't know what to tell you...I don't even know what mistakes i'm supposed to "man up and own". Me speaking up about what I learned about (what I was told at the time was) the 2023 Rubicon was not a mistake. Me pointing out that the 3.6l has more low-end torque than the 2.0l was not a mistake (cause it does). Me stating that I feel that the power loss at altitude thing is overblown was not a mistake (that's just an opinion). So...yeah...I dunno...I know there's more but like I said, I can't remember.
 

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I don't know what to tell you...I don't even know what mistakes i'm supposed to "man up and own". Me speaking up about what I learned about (what I was told at the time was) the 2023 Rubicon was not a mistake. Me pointing out that the 3.6l has more low-end torque than the 2.0l was not a mistake (cause it does). Me stating that I feel that the power loss at altitude thing is overblown was not a mistake (that's just an opinion). So...yeah...I dunno...I know there's more but like I said, I can't remember.
Is that how you remember it? It was quoted by someone in this thread even. You stated that 23' was going to have a new frame and tub and that the changes were substantial enough to be more than just a refresh. I'll give you the wrong year. I'll even accept that you saw something. But you have never admitted that you completely fabricated the story about there being more than a refresh. We have the proof now. There were a few minor changes, but they are so inconsequential that very few aftermarket parts are effected by it. Do I need to continue?
 

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Is that how you remember it? It was quoted by someone in this thread even. You stated that 23' was going to have a new frame and tub and that the changes were substantial enough to be more than just a refresh. I'll give you the wrong year. I'll even accept that you saw something. But you have never admitted that you completely fabricated the story about there being more than a refresh. We have the proof now. There were a few minor changes, but they are so inconsequential that very few aftermarket parts are effected by it. Do I need to continue?
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I TOLD YOU WHAT I SAW!!!! THAT'S IT!!!! …I'm not going to "concede" that something I witnessed myself was wrong. I know what I saw. So you need to just move on.
Just to help get this to over a 100 pages. In grade school I witnessed firsthand what I was sure was a UFO. I was 1000% convinced of it at the time. I can concede what I witnessed myself was wrong. As you grow up and mature you’ll find out a lot of things you were 100% sure of were wrong. I can even say the words out loud. Try it with me. “You know it turns out I was wrong”
 

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Just to help get this to over a 100 pages. In grade school I witnessed firsthand what I was sure was a UFO. I was 1000% convinced of it at the time. I can concede what I witnessed myself was wrong. As you grow up and mature you’ll find out a lot of things you were 100% sure of were wrong. I can even say the words out loud. Try it with me. “You know it turns out I was wrong”
I saw a ghost of a woman walking down the stairs in an abandoned house once as a child running around with friends. It 1000000% happened and you wont convince me otherwise -_-
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