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[TheRaven]

This is somewhat true. It was @yokramer

Yes - "Less IS more" is NOT equal to "More FOR less". Two very different things.

So it's not "somewhat true". It's absolutely true.

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[Mgdstar]

That's a gas guzzler tax it has nothing to do with emissions and everything to do with MPGs.

It's meant to punish the consumer for their poor choices.

That sounds like government control to me. This country has plenty of oil and is an exporter of gas, but you think it’s the consumer making bad choices.

 

[John VonJeep]

Those Grenadiers sure aren't cheap...

They were expensive even before the 5% increase for 2025. But if you were disciplined, you could get the good off-road bits and not spend more than a loaded Rubi X at MSRP. Thing is, Trash Bin was $43k out the door.

 

[Remorseless]

Yes - "Less IS more" is NOT equal to "More FOR less". Two very different things.

So it's not "somewhat true". It's absolutely true.

 

[Sean L]

They were expensive even before the 5% increase for 2025. But if you were disciplined, you could get the good off-road bits and not spend more than a loaded Rubi X at MSRP. Thing is, Trash Bin was $43k out the door.

So... Max out the most expensive (non-392) Jeep or get an Entry Level Grenadier with lockers...

 

[John VonJeep]

So... Max out the most expensive (non-392) Jeep or get an Entry Level Grenadier with lockers...

If you’re dead set on spending more than $70k, that’s the math, yes.

 

[yokramer]

So... Max out the most expensive (non-392) Jeep or get an Entry Level Grenadier with lockers...

Average reliability will probably be about the same

 

[Sean L]

Average reliability will probably be about the same

With a BMW motor?

 

[John VonJeep]

Average reliability will probably be about the same

And they’re having the same kind of sales problem that Jeep currently has.

 

[autotragic]

That sounds like government control to me. This country has plenty of oil and is an exporter of gas, but you think it’s the consumer making bad choices.

I didn't write the law... It's also not new and it's been around for quite some time now.

 

[Remorseless]

And they’re having the same kind of sales problem that Jeep currently has.

It's almost like a struggling economy encourages people towards more economic decisions and that's not Jeeps, Grenadiers, or things with less than 25-30MPG...

 

[Sean L]

If you’re dead set on spending more than $70k, that’s the math, yes.

Yeah. Would be nice to have that budget for an off roader.

 

[John VonJeep]

It's almost like a struggling economy encourages people towards more economic decisions and that's not Jeeps, Grenadiers, or things with less than 25-30MPG...

Less is more.

 

[Remorseless]

Less is more.

They wouldn't call it a Corolla Cross if it couldn't Cross a rock garden, right?

 

[John VonJeep]

They wouldn't call it a Corolla Cross if it couldn't Cross a rock garden, right?

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