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Drove some folks to the airport today, and as I was leaving a guy came up to me and asked if I wouldn't happen to have some jumper cables. I told him, of course, but actually one better even, as I had a giant jump battery that wouldn't require futzing about with aligning the cars for a jump in the busy airport departure lane.

While we were walking back with the battery, for conversation's sake I asked him how many people he had hit up before getting to me. Turns out I was actually the first person he had asked and he was really just waiting for the airport maintenance vehicle to arrive, but took the chance to ask me. He said, "I saw all the stuff(junk) in your car(sic) when you were unloading and thought that you look like someone that would have jumper cables and know how to use them"

To clarify, since getting her a few months ago, I've been seriously/pretending to prime the jeep for a cross-country trip, so I suppose that there is a lot of (lifesaving) stuff(junk) in the back, and she does sport more antennas than absolutely necessary. With regards to my person, after spending ten days on an aborted trip to California two months ago, I misguidedly vowed to not shave until I successfully made it to the Wrong Coast; I am decidedly scruffy now. I was wearing a worn-out, faded Carhartt jacket, beat up hiking boots, and an old hat that might still be a hat in name only. How stereotypicalist! Stereotypist? Stereotyperist. -ical?

End of story, after detecting 11.2V initially, the big Noco jumper started the little four cylinder Accord anyway. Guy said that he had driven two hours to the airport for a trip to Miami, and his wife with kids were waiting past security inside; he had already figured on missing his flight and sitting Standby for the next, since the airport truck wasn't expected for an hour yet. I wished him luck catching his flight and told him to try to organise getting a jump battery to the airport so he could be on his way as soon as they returned and to get his alternator looked at. As he pulled out and passed by, my only regret was forgetting to ask him to contribute to the battery maintenance/beer fund. And telling him that cabbies often carry jumpers. (Do they still?)

I don't really consider myself a 'car guy'. I remember there being quite a few spare parts after tearing down and rebuilding a lawnmower engine in autoshop all those years ago. (It still ran!) I hadn't been under a vehicle in a long time, random loose bits and broken belly pans notwithstanding. Simple mechanical and electrical stuff is alright, topping off fluids, bulbs and fuses and such. If I had to, brakes and plugs would probably be alright, but direct injection and all the computer stuff is beyond me. I'd say I have basic car maintenance skills, though it seems a bit like today's driver doesn't need to do many of these things anymore.

After getting the Wrangler though, things have changed a bit. Even stock, it's tall enough for me to get under with just a crawler; I've already been under there a dozen times just for the alignment. (Aside: My bad steering is pretty much gone. 8,400~ miles now. Wandering all over the road until I lowered tire pressure, rotated tires, got an alignment, and adjusted center many times. Seems that there was a break in period for mine, but beforehand it was as bad as all the terrible steering issue posts suggest. The cold seems to help too. Hint: Solid front axle and the crown of the road will drive you crazy thinking that things aren't centered when they actually are. Drive in the passing and exit lanes on at least a three lane before even thinking about non-centered steering wheels.) I've even parked and given the adjustment collar a turn with just a glove and a crescent wrench.

After years of paying for them, oil changes are a breeze now. I'm pretty sure the gunk at the bottom of my oil drain pan was the evaporated remains of 4+ litres of oil from my last self oil change twenty plus years ago. Not that I even need the pan anymore. At 5 quarts per, the precise amount in a large jug, the old-oil containers are theoretically self-sustaining. And no more finding those 'How old is this?' half bottles.

Sorry, got sidetracked. Long story short, some dude saw my jeep and my uncharacteristically hairy facade, and presumed that I was a bonafide car guy. In comparison, I was, but it looks like I'm headed towards being even more so in the future. So I just wanted to say I appreciate the ease of fiddling with the Wrangler for starting to get me back into cars a bit more, and hope that the enthusiasm sticks past the first claim that I've voided the warranty on.
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Ok, I dont quite understand. Your title says " mistaken for a Jeeper". What does it take to qualify as a Jeeper beyond driving a Jeep? I'd hate to think I've been a poser for the last 50 years.
 

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I agree since driving Jeeps since my 1965 CJ5, in 1965 and owning 26 more of them since that one I'm also wondering? Since except for extreme rock crawling/scraping my old 1st CJ5 with just oversized tires and my stock JLU now (with just different tires) went/go almost anywhere any of my modified Jeeps went? Certainly the new JLU will go anywhere I want to go.Yup as you can see with a new 1965 CJ5 my age "might" have a bit todo with this thought!! lol

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If someone calla me a JEEPER--that's fine, if they don't--I couldn't care LESS !

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Ok, I dont quite understand. Your title says " mistaken for a Jeeper". What does it take to qualify as a Jeeper beyond driving a Jeep? I'd hate to think I've been a poser for the last 50 years.
Yeah, I noticed that the title seems weird right after I posted it.

Well, I'm just starting out but I'd say probably wearing a hat that says "Jeep" is enough, anything else is icing. You have to wear the hat though, just owning it is not enough, and if it's a ball-cap, you can't wear it backwards. Wearing that lazy Christmas present is was separates the Jeepers from the people that think that they're Jeepers but don't wear a hat that says Jeep. You can probably find a link in the For Sale section of the forums if you need one, but if you're worried in the meantime, I'm pretty sure you can use a Sharpie to tide you over.

Since getting the Wrangler four months ago, I have technically been a Jeeper. I guess I was using the term in the colloquial sense of "A Person who owns a Jeep and does Jeepy Things in Jeepy Places using Jeepy Skills and Equipment", as opposed to a person that owns a Jeep of any sort and treats it as just another vehicle. Now don't get me wrong, I'm planning on doing Jeepy Things etc etc, but I've just begun and don't think I have enough points to call myself that yet.

What both amused and made an impression on me was that the person had already been waiting there long enough for his wife to check in and get through security with their kids, and despite there being several medium pickups and SUVs around him, even a black Wrangler a few cars behind, but he didn't ask any other random people for help until I pulled up in front of him, started unloading, and he saw all the stuff I had in the back. (He didn't see jumper cables, I only had the jumper battery on me, and that was under the passenger seat)

I don't think anything about my jeep screams, "This guy can totally help you change a flat or jump a battery". Heck, maybe nothing about me screams that; though I've helped people with both often enough, I always have to offer first. The jeep is still pretty much a stock white Sahara, besides a few bolt on parts, and I was a short person in a Hawaiian shirt and bright red pants, albeit with ratty jacket and hat that day. There's stuff in the cargo area, but nothing like tool boxes or recovery gear or jack stands and farm jacks rolling around. I suppose the one visible fire extinguisher might impress a layman. If anything, it's mostly just a lot of storage bags in the windows. But 'The whole being greater than the sum of its parts' thing apparently convinced the guy that I would have tools and know how to use them, or at least have tools. (Seriously, I'm pretty sure 90% was the awful facial hair) It's 2020 now, there were tons of tall dudes with awesome beards and manly giant vehicles around him, but he picked me for some reason. Maybe I smelled different? It was early, so I didn't bathe that morning. I might have smelled.

So I guess the title should be, 'Somehow recognised as the larval form of the popular public opinion of what a Real Jeeper might look like, or want to look like, or accidentally look like'.

I don't know how to change the title.
 
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Yeah, I noticed that the title seems weird right after I posted it.

Well, I'm just starting out but I'd say probably wearing a hat that says "Jeep" is enough, anything else is icing. You have to wear the hat though, just owning it is not enough, and if it's a ball-cap, you can't wear it backwards. Wearing that lazy Christmas present is was separates the Jeepers from the people that think that they're Jeepers but don't wear a hat that says Jeep. You can probably find a link in the For Sale section of the forums if you need one, but if you're worried in the meantime, I'm pretty sure you can use a Sharpie to tide you over.

So I guess the title should be, 'Somehow recognised as the larval form of the popular public opinion of what a Real Jeeper might look like, or want to look like, or accidentally look like'. I don't know how to change the title.
no need to change it...and I do have the hat. Also wore out the tshirt...a long time ago

I have to confess that in spite of living in Iowa and having no intention of ever deliberately driving off road, the first thing I did when I bought this Jeep was load it up, like I've done with every Jeep I bought since 1969..tow strap, jumpers, inflator, tools, entrenching tool...two flashlights, binocs, two knives....first aid kit.

I guess to me that's all just stuff that has to be in the Jeep, along with the registration and insurance. Perhaps I am a Jeeper.
 

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OP, TLDR please.
 
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Interesting story!

Unrelated question, are you on Adderall?

That's counter-intuitive. I'm obviously on as many depressants as I can find. It's gotten worse since my Focusyn script ran out.

Sorry, I double space after periods and it makes for a slightly less seemingly rambling read, but the formatting here removes all of them. I'll try to keep that in mind before my next wall of text and work on my paragraph breaks.


TL;DR for GtX and everyone else:

I'm new! I got a Jeep! I don't think I look very Jeepy; stock Sahara, silly pants. But a person asked me for a jumpstart, even though there were several macho beardos in bigger vehicles nearby. I was surprised! The Wrangler is cool. Wear a hat.
 

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no need to change it...and I do have the hat. Also wore out the tshirt...a long time ago

I have to confess that in spite of living in Iowa and having no intention of ever deliberately driving off road, the first thing I did when I bought this Jeep was load it up, like I've done with every Jeep I bought since 1969..tow strap, jumpers, inflator, tools, entrenching tool...two flashlights, binocs, two knives....first aid kit.

I guess to me that's all just stuff that has to be in the Jeep, along with the registration and insurance. Perhaps I am a Jeeper.

Yeah, sometimes I swerve off the shoulder too.

The first thing I put in my jeep has a halotron fire extinguisher. (2.0 Turbo with the big lithium battery). The next thing was a second, larger halotron extinguisher. (Discovered the battery was more explodey than expected, and that I was sitting on it) I have everything else you mentioned in my jeep as well.

Regardless of what's actually in your vehicle, knowing how to use the things you put in your jeep is an even bigger part of it. Even if you were riding in someone else's car that had none of those things, knowing how to use them, or heck, even knowing that those things exist can save you a lot of trouble. I think that the mindset is what's most important, and it looks like you've got that covered. We should all be so lucky.
 

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That's counter-intuitive. I'm obviously on as many depressants as I can find. It's gotten worse since my Focusyn script ran out.

Sorry, I double space after periods and it makes for a slightly less seemingly rambling read, but the formatting here removes all of them. I'll try to keep that in mind before my next wall of text and work on my paragraph breaks.


TL;DR for GtX and everyone else:

I'm new! I got a Jeep! I don't think I look very Jeepy; stock Sahara, silly pants. But a person asked me for a jumpstart, even though there were several macho beardos in bigger vehicles nearby. I was surprised! The Wrangler is cool. Wear a hat.
Hahaha fair enough, I read both the long version and the TL;DR version and both were entertaining.

I also put two spaces after periods.
 

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This thread keeps going on and on and----

To me----an old timer, to be LABLED as a JEEPER--you MUST take your jeep OFFROAD, carry SOME RECOVERY GEAR travel trails that a CAR can't make progress, doesn't matter how often ! !

You must be willing to OFFER/ASSIST anyone ON THE TRAIL "IN NEED" !

You MIST BE JEEP POSITIVE and be PROUD OF YOUR JEEP and speak/show your positive feelings for JEEPING/ENVIRONMENT PROTECTION !

That's my story and I'm sticking to it !

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Well, I'm not an oldtimer yet, but I think I have one of those knives.
Being an old timer is one of my greatest aspirations. Right now I'm more like a midtimer, or part-timer. Maybe an oven timer.

Don't get me wrong, I think we're one the some page. I'll agree with, and resemble, your assessment of some of the things that make a 'Jeeper' a 'Jeeper', but anywhere along the spectrum of a stock jeep to mega rock crawlers to super overlander/glampers to those plasticized baby-scarers is probably alright with me. So long as they're making good choices for the route they've taken, more power to them.

I wouldn't mind your envious tool and gear loadout in the back of my jeep, (yes I would, my jeep is pretty full. Maybe if it just floated behind me) but don't discount the guy that only travels pavement and gravel roads, and goes out with just duct tape, WD-40, and a Leatherman, they're a Jeeper too.

+1 on conflating Jeeping and protecting the environment, but that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

Enough words, here's a photo of a jeep!

Jeep Wrangler JL Mistaken for a Jeeper. upload_2020-1-20_19-9-44



This was this afternoon when I was trying to fulfill one of my Jeeper prerequisites by going off road. Somehow couldn't find the beach, despite being in New Jersey and driving towards the right. I was stopped by a sign that said, "No(Little)Dogs Allowed" in that Snoopy movie voice, which additionally said that I suck and didn't have a permit to go past this line.

Maybe next time.
 
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Towards JIMBOX and the general public,


Well, I'm not an oldtimer yet, but I think I have one of those knives.
Being an old timer is one of my greatest aspirations Right now I'm more like a midtimer, or part-timer. Maybe an oven timer.

Don't get me wrong, I think we're one the some page. I'll agree with, and resemble, your assessment of some of the things that make a 'Jeeper' a 'Jeeper', but anywhere along the spectrum of a stock jeep to mega rock crawlers to super overlander/glampers to those plasticized baby-scarers is probably alright with me. So long as they're making good choices for the route they've taken, more power to them.

I wouldn't mind your envious tool and gear loadout in the back of my jeep, (yes I would, my jeep is pretty full. Maybe if it just floated behind me) but don't discount the guy that only travels pavement and gravel roads, and goes out with just duct tape, WD-40, and a Leatherman, they're a Jeeper too.

+1 on conflating Jeeping and protecting the environment, but that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

Enough words, here's a photo of a jeep!

upload_2020-1-20_19-9-44.webp


Heh Heh, yeah, you're right--being a JEEPER, is like being a DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN-- it really depends on your SOCIAL CROWD--

As far as RECOVERY GEAR GOES I have an elaborate collection of EQUIP. including two separate winch's--I had spare axles/hub/tie rod for my '08 JKUR-but I haven't gone quite that far with the JL, I have cut my "TREKS" down a notch--and I can still choose what/how much recovery gear to take on my outing's !

Your post was a good-to the point post !

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This was this afternoon when I was trying to fulfill one of my Jeeper prerequisites by going off road. Somehow couldn't find the beach, despite being in New Jersey and driving towards the right. I was stopped by a sign that said, "No(Little)Dogs Allowed" in that Snoopy movie voice, which additionally said that I suck and didn't have a permit to go past this line.

Maybe next time.
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