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I took my carpets out a long time ago, I only left the rear cargo area. I took everything from the front, and rear seats. I do however have the Jeep/Mopar slush mats with the drains in them. I’ve had it in the rain and on the trail with no concerns over the wiring Jeep protects it pretty well. It is a little louder and sometimes my right foot does get warm but, it’s nothing that makes me regret it. I have a 3.6L with a MBRP muffler delete, Soft top (which is down when it can be) and no carpets. Is it louder on the inside than my wife’s WLL…? Yes. Do I daily drive my JL and trail it? Also yes, but I wasn’t expecting comfort out of it otherwise I would have gotten a Ram or WL. But, can I still hear my 3 year old in the back seat while going 80mph down the interstate? Definitely. My advice is do whatever but, the further you climb down the I want my Wrangler to have more comfort and luxury the more Stalantis will see that and the more the wrangler will become the Bronco. Wrangle is off-road can go on on-road, Bronco is On-road can go off-road. #IFSbreakingonlighttrails
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I am not a fan of Armourlite... its still a "Carpet"... they is still a gap between body and top surface for sand and debris to get stuck. I ran no carpet on my old TJ, it wasn't the noise, it was the heat from below after driving a bit. Floor was always warm. I like the idea of a spray on bedliner, something easy to hose off and nothing trapped below it.

That said for the JL living with the carpet... WAF says carpet. :)
 

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Now that JLs have a vinyl floor option I'm hoping that the OEM parts will become available for retrofitting.
 

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@M_Pluto - you can see what is under the carpet in these photos of my Kilmat installation. I would think that only spraying in bedliner (unless 3/16"-5/16" thick) is going to exponentially increase the heat and road noise.

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Tore out the carpet in my YJ and replaced w/ Herculiner. I loved it, the wife hated it. The floor was much warmer (hot even) but can't tell about the noise since the soft top YJ pretty much deafens you anyway!
 
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@M_Pluto - you can see what is under the carpet in these photos of my Kilmat installation. I would think that only spraying in bedliner (unless 3/16"-5/16" thick) is going to exponentially increase the heat and road noise.

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I plan on using this product to manage the heat:
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And this product for the sound:
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They are more purpose made to being used for controlling sound & heat than and less at protection like a traditional bed liner is.
 
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I agree that the product you DON'T WANT, the same product that has been mentioned in almost every response, isn't for everyone.

I think your biggest issue will be the seat wiring and heat/air ductwork running under the seat. You'll have to remove all that stuff to properly get the floor sprayed.

If I make any changes to mine, that will be the route I take.
Honestly, the biggest thing for me will be cost of labour, as this requires a lot of OCD and a little less ADHD for the teardown (keeping track of parts, bolts, nuts, etc). Even more so especially for the taping & prep work. For the install it's a 2 day minimum job, as the first product needs a full 24 hours of curing before you can move onto the second one. I've watched a few full tear down videos of jeeps to have an idea of just how much work is involved with it. I'll probably try to do as much of the tear down as I can to cut down on labour costs, but it is still gonna be pricy.
 

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I plan on using this product to manage the heat:
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And this product for the sound:
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They are more purpose made to being used for controlling sound & heat than and less at protection like a traditional bed liner is.
Will be interesting to see how turns out and how it works in action.
 

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Honestly, the biggest thing for me will be cost of labour, as this requires a lot of OCD and a little less ADHD for the teardown (keeping track of parts, bolts, nuts, etc). Even more so especially for the taping & prep work. For the install it's a 2 day minimum job, as the first product needs a full 24 hours of curing before you can move onto the second one. I've watched a few full tear down videos of jeeps to have an idea of just how much work is involved with it. I'll probably try to do as much of the tear down as I can to cut down on labour costs, but it is still gonna be pricy.
Sounds like a good plan. Please let us know how it turns out.
 

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Sounds like a good plan. Please let us know how it turns out.
Well first things first, the jeep has to get here, she's been taking her sweet little time, and didn't get on her first train until just a couple of days ago. But as I am planning a trip down to Moab in April, so long as I can swing the financial part of it, I'm gonna try and give it a go before then!
 

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You may also want to make sure that lizard skin doesn't contain the same cancerous off-gassing that nearly all bedliner products do. In the bed of a truck it's no problem; in a naked jeep, probably the same - but even then I wouldn't risk it, alongside the other issues of a less-than-seamless joining between the floor and the plastic trim, abrasiveness, noise and heat.
 

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Well first things first, the jeep has to get here, she's been taking her sweet little time, and didn't get on her first train until just a couple of days ago. But as I am planning a trip down to Moab in April, so long as I can swing the financial part of it, I'm gonna try and give it a go before then!
Hell yeah! That will kick ass!
 

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You may also want to make sure that lizard skin doesn't contain the same cancerous off-gassing that nearly all bedliner products do. In the bed of a truck it's no problem; in a naked jeep, probably the same - but even then I wouldn't risk it, alongside the other issues of a less-than-seamless joining between the floor and the plastic trim, abrasiveness, noise and heat.
The buckets both say: No harmful chemicals and environmentally safe. I'd say the direct sunshine of an open Jeep poses a bigger threat. But sunshine is pretty good for ya too.
 
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You may also want to make sure that lizard skin doesn't contain the same cancerous off-gassing that nearly all bedliner products do. In the bed of a truck it's no problem; in a naked jeep, probably the same - but even then I wouldn't risk it, alongside the other issues of a less-than-seamless joining between the floor and the plastic trim, abrasiveness, noise and heat.
I feel like I've said this a couple times, but Lizard Skin isn't a bed liner technically speaking (they say this on their website, it is not a bed liner), it is meant for internal/inside applications. From what I've heard & from a vague recollection of a conversation with one of their people on the phone, off gassing isn't really a problem/consideration.
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