How Does this Get Through Quality Control?

[tyresmoker]

Bought a first-year (very late build) WK2 Summit Hemi in 2011. Car was close to flawless. Traded it for a '15i Escalade which was bought back and replaced with a '16 Escalade which was bought back for cash. Both trucks..total garbage. Forums were full of problems, but I thought it couldn't happen to me....Lesson learned. I am going to let them get a few JL's under their belt before ordering....

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[Spank]

With all the flaws the JK had the first couple of years, I never had any issues when it came to actual wheeling. I beat the absolute shit out of my '07 Sahara and it took it like a champ. Most of the issues I had were outside of its off-road capabilities, like window switches not working, the leaky soft top, and the infamous static electricity WCM freak-out. Ah, the memories of having to unplug your battery and wait for the computer to reset because you shocked the Jeep dead by climbing into it. And the TOB problem that still plagues the JK today wasn't due to wheeling, but it was an issue that made me switch to an automatic. As antiquated as the WA580 is, it's still a fantastic transmission and probably the most reliable thing they ever put in a JK.

That being said, if Jeep has truly put the time and energy that they appear to have into making a quality, reliable, and functional technology package while keeping the mechanicals relatively the same, the JL might actually have a smooth launch. There were a lot of "WTF did they do that for?" elements of the JK when it first came out, but in examining the JL's improvements to the axles and the geometry changes of the suspension, everything makes sense. Longevity is gonna be the big question, but Jeep definitely addressed many of the JK's flaws without sacrificing what makes a Wrangler a Wrangler.

And in test driving the JL, they've improved just about everything as far as on-road feel, but it is not the phenomenal night-and-day change Jeep claims it is. As such, I was kind of surprised how much it still feels and drives like a JK, but that is not a bad thing at all.

 

[rafaelsmith]

With all the flaws the JK had the first couple of years, I never had any issues when it came to actual wheeling. I beat the absolute shit out of my '07 Sahara and it took it like a champ. Most of the issues I had were outside of its off-road capabilities, like window switches not working, the leaky soft top, and the infamous static electricity WCM freak-out. Ah, the memories of having to unplug your battery and wait for the computer to reset because you shocked the Jeep dead by climbing into it. And the TOB problem that still plagues the JK today wasn't due to wheeling, but it was an issue that made me switch to an automatic. As antiquated as the WA580 is, it's still a fantastic transmission and probably the most reliable thing they ever put in a JK.

That being said, if Jeep has truly put the time and energy that they appear to have into making a quality, reliable, and functional technology package while keeping the mechanicals relatively the same, the JL might actually have a smooth launch. There were a lot of "WTF did they do that for?" elements of the JK when it first came out, but in examining the JL's improvements to the axles and the geometry changes of the suspension, everything makes sense. Longevity is gonna be the big question, but Jeep definitely addressed many of the JK's flaws without sacrificing what makes a Wrangler a Wrangler.

And in test driving the JL, they've improved just about everything as far as on-road feel, but it is not the phenomenal night-and-day change Jeep claims it is. As such, I was kind of surprised how much it still feels and drives like a JK, but that is not a bad thing at all.

Yeah, I have beat the crap out of my 08 and with exception of normal wear and tear stuff any car goes thru I have not had any problems. Yeah the soft top leaked a bit...but so did every other wrangler I had before..and it likes to suck up oil.

The only worrisome issue I am having now is that the dreaded death wobble has starting happening often so not sure what is up with that.. I have checked the usual culprits and replaced a few warn parts but still getting it. Just gonna have to live with it until I can get the JL...shops around here want too much $$$ to diagnose.

 

[ocrejects]

Here are blowups of both fenders. It sure looks like the wrong black fender was fitted at the factory.

It’s the old saying, hope that your Jeep isn’t built on a Monday or Friday! Looks like Your was built on a Friday.... easy fix thought..

 

[jaldeborgh]

What's the "death wobble"? Sounds bad.

 

[Jeepster2018]

Was wondering the same thing and how much should we be concerned about it?

What's the "death wobble"? Sounds bad.

 

[Jeepsterfreak]

With all the flaws the JK had the first couple of years, I never had any issues when it came to actual wheeling. I beat the absolute shit out of my '07 Sahara and it took it like a champ. Most of the issues I had were outside of its off-road capabilities, like window switches not working, the leaky soft top, and the infamous static electricity WCM freak-out. Ah, the memories of having to unplug your battery and wait for the computer to reset because you shocked the Jeep dead by climbing into it. And the TOB problem that still plagues the JK today wasn't due to wheeling, but it was an issue that made me switch to an automatic. As antiquated as the WA580 is, it's still a fantastic transmission and probably the most reliable thing they ever put in a JK.

That being said, if Jeep has truly put the time and energy that they appear to have into making a quality, reliable, and functional technology package while keeping the mechanicals relatively the same, the JL might actually have a smooth launch. There were a lot of "WTF did they do that for?" elements of the JK when it first came out, but in examining the JL's improvements to the axles and the geometry changes of the suspension, everything makes sense. Longevity is gonna be the big question, but Jeep definitely addressed many of the JK's flaws without sacrificing what makes a Wrangler a Wrangler.

And in test driving the JL, they've improved just about everything as far as on-road feel, but it is not the phenomenal night-and-day change Jeep claims it is. As such, I was kind of surprised how much it still feels and drives like a JK, but that is not a bad thing at all.

What about the front axle disconnect system? That's new to the Wranger since the vacuum module in the YJ.

I imagine it's maybe the same system used in the RAM trucks so hopefully it's tried and true?

 

[DanW]

What about the front axle disconnect system? That's new to the Wranger since the vacuum module in the YJ.

I imagine it's maybe the same system used in the RAM trucks so hopefully it's tried and true?

They've said it is just like the ram.

 

[Jeepster2018]

Oh no, not good.

It’s the old saying, hope that your Jeep isn’t built on a Monday or Friday! Looks like Your was built on a Friday.... easy fix thought..

 

[JHJLUR]

Was wondering the same thing and how much should we be concerned about it?

No, don’t worry about it

 

[GRAK]

No, don’t worry about it

yes. nothing to see here..

 

[Jeepster2018]

Way too early to determine anything at this point...give things 6-18 months....

What about the front axle disconnect system? That's new to the Wranger since the vacuum module in the YJ.

I imagine it's maybe the same system used in the RAM trucks so hopefully it's tried and true?

 

[Jesscott2]

Mine arrived with a horrific wind noise, quality control is still lacking.

My 2019 jl has a number of issues I have had it 4 weeks 2 of the 4 still in dealership service here are sum pics

 

[Jesscott2]

My 2019 jl has a number of issues I have had it 4 weeks 2 of the 4 still in dealership service here are sum pics

 

[Jesscott2]

Thats my dash when i was driving it have video but couldnt put it on site Also has jeep wobble Dealership replace dampiner I think I bought a bad Jl pushing for full replace Wish me luck

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