Fire at Jeep Wrangler storage lot in Toledo

[old8tora]

You’re making a huge assumption in your first sentence that I don’t know anyone has the data to support or argue. That enough owners drive their wrangler far enough (like into the back country) to need the extra fuel or charge. What about the owners who have a wrangler only for their beach house to drive around town, or the weekend tote your kids to practice family, or the city dweller who just wants the new cool convertible that everyone is discussing, etc. Me, as an environmentalist and jeep lover, I’d love an electric wrangler and can’t wait to see what it becomes. Sure, to keep up with my overlanding or rock crawling, I will keep and use my JK. But, maybe you meant this, I’d agree a fully electric wrangler as the ONLY powertrain option would be terrible.

How about military spec Jeeps for military uses . That would completely exclude electric teslas ; one of the first ones , in New England , had a wheel fall off it whilst driving up the owner's driveway . Tesla argued with the owner , saying the owner must have caused it . Finally tesla fixed it , the owner sold it , and then the owner went public . Would be unheard of with a military vehicle , for which wuss tesla would never qualify .

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[NavyVet1959]

Your 69 was a carb motor and they had different fuel systems and other things. The scenario you suggest not not very likely with today's cars. Most modern day fires are electrical.

I didn't say "likely"... It's *possible* though... I've seen a couple of cars over the years which had caught fire and were pulled over on the side of the road and no other car was involved. I've seen a few more cases where there were the burn marks on the concrete on the emergency lane where that had most likely happened recently. With as many people driving as in Houston, eventually you will see something like that happening. Also, fuel oil fires tend to be more black smoke than electrical fires. And despite some people's beliefs to the contrary, fuel oil fires *can* be put out with water if you know what you are doing.

 

[Chicago]

How about masculine people , who want a masculine vehicle , which can do masculine things , eh ? Like military spec Jeeps for military uses . That would completely exclude electric teslas ; one of the first ones , in New England , had a wheel fall off it whilst driving up the owner's driveway . Tesla argued with the owner , saying the owner must have caused it . Finally tesla fixed it , the owner sold it , and then the owner went public . Would be unheard of with a military vehicle , for which wuss tesla would never qualify .

If your worried about the environment buy a horse , also to generate electric you need fuel

 

[bilash31]

If your worried about the environment buy a horse , also to generate electric you need fuel

Wow. What an ignorant, factually and grammatically incorrect, contribution to the thread. Thx for that

 

[MisFiTkEv]

Id

This is what I’m here for. Super curious to hear more details about the fire.

Did you all know this was the second fire they had this month? I guess I hadn’t realized that until I saw this story:
http://www.13abc.com/content/news/Monday-Jeep-fire-is-not-the-first-one-this-month-483259681.html

uhm.... this is disturbing news. I am concerned that my turbo may be prone to bursting into flames.

 

[old8tora]

Wow. What an ignorant, factually and grammatically incorrect, contribution to the thread. Thx for that

First you want an electric wrangler , which is the dumbest idea ever . Second , you call names against an innocent , sincere , and correct poster . Third , the names you call the correct poster actually apply to yourself , because you missed the news about the wuss tesla crashing into the Back of a Fire Engine in Utah . Before you call others ignorant , find out about the bent tesla which crashed into the back of the fire engine , and read Elon's fake wuss excuses in defence of his tax-subsidized wet dream .

 

[Chicago]

Wow. What an ignorant, factually and grammatically incorrect, contribution to the thread. Thx for that

Your welcome

First you want an electric wrangler , which is the dumbest idea ever . Second , you call names against an innocent , sincere , and correct poster . Third , the names you call the correct poster actually apply to yourself , because you missed the news about the wuss tesla crashing into the Back of a Fire Engine in Utah . Before you call others ignorant , find out about the bent tesla which crashed into the back of the fire engine , and read Elon's fake wuss excuses in defence of his tax-subsidized wet dream .

i couldnt agree more with your statement

 

[Chicago]

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/autos/fca-recall-cruise-control/index.html

 

[aug0211]

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/autos/fca-recall-cruise-control/index.html

Interesting that they don't say JK vs JL (both?). Also, looks like my 2014 Grand Cherokee could be on the list.

 

[old8tora]

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/autos/fca-recall-cruise-control/index.html

Excellent information . I didn't know that . I am somewhat afraid of using cruise control anyhow ; totally useless for work or military application .

Today's UK Daily Mail reports that the tesla which crashed into the back of the fire engine actually accelerated just before impact . ( Autopilot or cruise control ? )

With my JK's actual KEY, I know that I can always turn OFF the engine if unintended acceleration ( or cruise control out of control ) ; but could one turn off the engine whilst driving with a key FOB ? Just wondering out loud . Can you imagine fumbling around with a key FOB whilst out of control ?

 

[Chicago]

Interesting that they don't say JK vs JL (both?). Also, looks like my 2014 Grand Cherokee could be on the list.

I’m thinking it’s JLs to

 

[Chicago]

Excellent information . I didn't know that . I am somewhat afraid of using cruise control anyhow ; totally useless for work or military application .

Today's UK Daily Mail reports that the tesla which crashed into the back of the fire engine actually accelerated just before impact . ( Autopilot or cruise control ? )

With my JK's actual KEY, I know that I can always turn OFF the engine if unintended acceleration ( or cruise control out of control ) ; but could one turn off the engine whilst driving with a key FOB ? Just wondering out loud . Can you imagine fumbling around with a key FOB whilst out of control ?

I never use cruise control myself and I’d never buy a electric car lol

 

[NavyVet1959]

Today's UK Daily Mail reports that the tesla which crashed into the back of the fire engine actually accelerated just before impact . ( Autopilot or cruise control ? )

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/05...n-driver-before-hitting-parked-firetruck.html

 

[Majestic]

Excellent information . I didn't know that . I am somewhat afraid of using cruise control anyhow ; totally useless for work or military application .

Today's UK Daily Mail reports that the tesla which crashed into the back of the fire engine actually accelerated just before impact . ( Autopilot or cruise control ? )

With my JK's actual KEY, I know that I can always turn OFF the engine if unintended acceleration ( or cruise control out of control ) ; but could one turn off the engine whilst driving with a key FOB ? Just wondering out loud . Can you imagine fumbling around with a key FOB whilst out of control ?

To be fair the JK's key is really just a push button that requires the key to be inserted. That's how "tip start" is able to work.

 

[RussJeep1]

If already posted my apologies.

You'd think that with the value of all that inventory in close proximity that the use of forest service fire detection cameras might be cost justified.

e.g. http://www.firesafemarin.org/remote-fire-detection-cameras

(A watch guard is probably cheaper but I'm surprised that their insurance company, assuming they don't self insure--which they might here--wouldn't want such a setup.)

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