EPA Rules Rebuke... ESS dead?

[KCSgtMaj]

Ok, here we go. Will the reversal of many EPA regulations finally kill the mandatory ESS, and if so will dealerships be able to turn off the ESS function?

Ready, GO!

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[GabeBoyTheGreat]

Similar to what is being done with diesels, my guess is that automakers will be encouraged/incentivized to develop a software update for the consumers. My guess is that the software update will simply just remember the last setting of the ESS.

 

[yokramer]

ESS was never a mandate so any changes happening arent going to likely bring auto makers to change past vehicles over it.

 

[scorpionsix]

Ok, here we go. Will the reversal of many EPA regulations finally kill the mandatory ESS, and if so will dealerships be able to turn off the ESS function?

Ready, GO!

Not touching mine. That flash will end up breaking five other things that will take years to figure out. I'll just keep pushing the ESS button right after I push the start/stop button.

 

[azjl#3]

Buying first jeep made without ess, I figure it also won't have canbus issues, lifter camshaft or oil leaks. get batter gas mileage, be lifted 1/4 higher, corner better, make the ducks on my dash disappear, and gain more bad ass jeep comments in the parking lot.

 

[BXFXJeep]

They can easily update the existing software to remember the last selection, and hold it there, that ain't rocket science.

 

[Terrymo]

ESS was never a mandate so any changes happening arent going to likely bring auto makers to change past vehicles over it.

I’m guessing anyone bothered by it has already bought one of several products to deal with it. The pendulum on many things that ARE mandated generally swings back and forth every 4 to 8 years and inertia seems to apply here as well.

 

[Terrymo]

They can easily update the existing software to remember the last selection, and hold it there, that ain't rocket science.

Right like the 4xe update…kidding mostly

 

[KCSgtMaj]

They can easily update the existing software to remember the last selection, and hold it there, that ain't rocket science.

You’re right, it’s not rocket science. But you can bet your boots that Stellantis will make it rocket science!

 

[azjl#3]

They can easily update the existing software to remember the last selection, and hold it there, that ain't rocket science.

for a hefty fee

 

[BXFXJeep]

Right like the 4xe update…kidding mostly

Jeep updated the 4xe software to remember the Electric mode selection, and lock it in.

Previously we had to always select it, kinda like pressing the ESS button every time.

Pressing the electric mode button was a lot more annoying, than the ESS off.

 

[KCSgtMaj]

Jeep updated the 4xe software to remember the Electric mode selection, and lock it in.

Previously we had to always select it, kinda like pressing the ESS button every time.

Pressing the electric mode button was a lot more annoying, than the ESS off.

Maybe they’ll drop the crappy Aux battery.

 

[Mocopo]

ESS was never a mandate, but manufacturers were still incentivised to include that technology in their vehicles. The problem is there's likely not going to be a requirement or even incentive to actually change that feature, so the odds of manufacturers now spending money to change or remove ESS is petty low as well. The only way it gets removed or changed is if the market decides that for them.

 

[yokramer]

ESS was never a mandate, but manufacturers were still incentivised to include that technology in their vehicles. The problem is there's likely not going to be a requirement or even incentive to actually change that feature, so the odds of manufacturers now spending money to change or remove ESS is petty low as well. The only way it gets removed or changed is if the market decides that for them.

The only way it gets removed is if it saves the auto manufacturers money. Anyone that is seriously going to buy a Wrangler isnt going to be dissuaded by ESS no matter how much they rant about it online.

 

[yokramer]

Another thing to consider, which is apparently very hard for some, the US isnt the end all be all in the world. There are other countries with emission standards that the 3 American auto makers sell their products in. Just because this administration is making .... decisions ... it doesnt mean that changes will happen at all.

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