Engine oil type and amount

[SecondTJ]

From FCA press release when they introduced the 2nd Gen Pentastar...


"Windage-tray weight was slashed by 19 percent and front-cover weight was cut by 5 percent. The oil pan was redesigned from a two-piece to a single-piece pan and the sump was reduced from a 6-quart fill to a 5-quart fill – resulting in an overall 5-pound weight savings compared with the previous generation Pentastar V-6 engine."

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[SecondTJ]

Besides, Jeep would not take the liability and put the wrong amount in the owner’s manual.

Eh, they've made that mistake before.

Jeep printed GL-5 for fluid requirement during the early TJ years for the manual transmission, when it actually needed GL-3, which is not compatible with GL-5. Major error which they had to issue an amendment to address the typo.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

From FCA press release when they introduced the 2nd Gen Pentastar...


"The oil pan was redesigned from a two-piece to a single-piece pan and the sump was reduced from a 6-quart fill to a 5-quart fill – resulting in an overall 5-pound weight savings compared with the previous generation Pentastar V-6 engine."

@SecondTJ

I remember reading this and another similar press release.

This whole thing / forum rumor, that there was a typo in the manual and the JL, takes 6 quarts of oil not 5 is laughable at best.

@LLRubylady

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[LLRubylady]

@SecondTJ

I remember reading this and another similar press release.

This whole thing / forum rumor, that there was a typo in the manual and the JL, takes 6 quarts of oil not 5 is laughable at best.

@LLRubylady

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Update
Found the press release and emailed the dealer. He returned an email- you are correct. 5 quarts of oil is correct. They told me to stop down and they’ll suck out the extra quart.
I am shocked beyond belief that three didn’t know until I pointed it out yesterday. I feel bad for all the folks that have been having their oil changes by them.

 

[Arterius2]

Update
Found the press release and emailed the dealer. He returned an email- you are correct. 5 quarts of oil is correct. They told me to stop down and they’ll suck out the extra quart.
I am shocked beyond belief that three didn’t know until I pointed it out yesterday. I feel bad for all the folks that have been having their oil changes by them.

This is why I’m glad to have access to an entire forum dedicated to a single vehicle model because Chrysler dealerships are overwhelmingly incompetent.

 

[LLRubylady]

Well got my quart of oil drained out. The guys in the service department were very apologetic. But now they are aware. Told me they had no idea. I can only think of all the people that have had their oil changed and overfilled without a clue.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

Well got my quart of oil drained out. The guys in the service department were very apologetic. But now they are aware. Told me they had no idea. I can only think of all the people that have had their oil changed and overfilled without a clue.

@LLRubylady

I absolutely love it! ..... a woman set them straight... Good for you!

By the way, there is no reason you cannot do your own oil changes. The JL in particular is very very easy to do an oil change on. And I mean easy.

 

[melendez69]

Yet another reason why I consider this forum "the owner's manual." My first service trip to the dealer a couple weeks ago netted me 6 qts, dangerously tight tuner lugs way past spec, and a faulty tire valve that they failed to check for during a wheel replacement. Two trips for routine service to have them to replace the valve. This is my first experience with seemingly-amateurish service from a dealer. It was one visit, but enough to give me pause.

I've recently started acquiring what I need to start changing the oil on my own again & rotating the tires.

 

[Solidaxle]

Yet another reason why I consider this forum "the owner's manual." My first service trip to the dealer a couple weeks ago netted me 6 qts, dangerously tight tuner lugs way past spec, and a faulty tire valve that they failed to check for during a wheel replacement. Two trips for routine service to have them to replace the valve. This is my first experience with seemingly-amateurish service from a dealer. It was one visit, but enough to give me pause.

I've recently started acquiring what I need to start changing the oil on my own again & rotating the tires.

Yes it’s true you can get a lot of valuable information from these forms but like your dealer experience there’s a lot of miss information that goes around on the Internet and these forms as well. Your owners manual is still your best and most reliable source of information . there was no misprint in the owners manual the misprint is in the dealers head. The owners manual has been always correct the dealers never had any written documentation that shows 6 they were just always using the JK specifications there’s really no confusion.
I have been reading these forums for many many years and have witnessed many back-and-forth arguments in the forums which ended Immediately by a quick screenshot from the owners manual with real facts.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

Yes it’s true you can get a lot of valuable information from these forms but like your dealer experience there’s a lot of miss information that goes around on the Internet and these forms as well. Your owners manual is still your best and most reliable source of information . there was no misprint in the owners manual the misprint is in the dealers head. The owners manual has been always correct the dealers never had any written documentation that shows 6 they were just always using the JK specifications there’s really no confusion.
I have been reading these forums for many many years and have witnessed many back-and-forth arguments in the forums which ended Immediately by a quick screenshot from the owners manual with real facts.

@Solidaxle

I hear ya about the owner's manual... but .......... did you know the 2018 JL manual is on like the 3rd revision. Revised as they fixed errors, added additional info, took erroneous stuff out.

Anyway, now a days I use/check any and all sources before I take the leap so to speak.

 

[Solidaxle]

Well, if you follow the owners manual and have a problem you have a legal leg to stand on , if you follow some fourms on the Internet and have problems it could get complicated. Anyway to each their own.

 

[WXman]

The new oil pan is cute. Y'all should crawl under and look at it. It's the smallest oil pan I've ever seen in my life. It looks like it belongs on an ATV or something.

 

[ECHO]

Reading your ticket it all looks correct with the exception of the Synthetic.. Dealerships use a 5w20 blend now. The dealership has it coded for the Wave Program service, so its a set rate for them..

 

[Rhinebeck01]

Reading your ticket it all looks correct with the exception of the Synthetic.. Dealerships use a 5w20 blend now. The dealership has it coded for the Wave Program service, so its a set rate for them..

@ECHO

Much of what you have posted is incorrect. You are mistaken.... or perhaps you typoed.

Yes, 4 free oil changes are pointed to the Wave Program..

 

[ECHO]

@ECHO

Much of what you have posted is incorrect. You are mistaken.... or perhaps you typoed.

Yes, 4 free oil changes are pointed to the Wave Program..

What I was pointing out, was that his ticket was for a Wave Program Service, so its a set price for the dealership to claim. What else was incorrect?

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